what is the stupidest thing to have ever happened in wow's lore

[Altdorf]

The "cool" grey morals. Seriously guys, a place where the power of goodness is the light, is a place where only good people should be able harness It. Making morally grey paladins and even a beign like x'era just For the sake of making characters like Illidan more appealing is cheap and crappy. The thing is they use real Life morals in a world where good and Evil were Well defined, now everybody is waiting For the shitty Yrel's army of light nazis, something that is against their own lore, because as you can see in Arthas story he Lost his Light powers after the culling ( in Arthas book)

[ro9ue]

Generally any of the time travel / alternate universe stuff.

[DemonHunter18]

They INSTANTLY were on her side after being raised, though. Derek was being tortured for quite a bit of time and didn't turn, despite having no major adverse relations to the undead in the past. The two night elves just switched sides on a dime to the woman who killed them and genocided their people.

I just do NOT understand the logic!

LOL that was one the biggest bull*** ever written.

[Soon-TM]

LOL that was one the biggest bull*** ever written.

BfA alone has a lot, a LOT of facepalm worthy moments.

[Djaye]

Medan

/10

even blizz thinks this is their greatest fuck up. how many times have they straight up abandoned a character? especially the son of the Guardian of Azeroth? its almost like everything that has come out since Wrath has been a huge distraction from that terrible story line in hopes the players will forget.

[Thundering]

everything after the wotlk expansion.

[ThrashMetalFtw]

We don't exactly know the consequences of it yet.
The scourge was in disarray after Arthas died and we have no idea what the current situation is like after Bolvar took on the job.

Bolvar being more than a human might have been able to defuse the army that Arthas had built and delayed the swarm of undeath that would have happened had he not taken the job.

"There must always be a Lich King" was the single worst lorerape they ever did, as that exact scenario already happened once in WC3, and it resulted in a part of the Scourge gaining free will (Forsaken), not the Scourge going amok...

Demons being unique across all timelines was the 2nd worst, although they might have retconned that since WoD.

[Soon-TM]

even blizz thinks this is their greatest fuck up. how many times have they straight up abandoned a character? especially the son of the Guardian of Azeroth? its almost like everything that has come out since Wrath has been a huge distraction from that terrible story line in hopes the players will forget.

Blizzard is very fond of Mary Sue type of characters, but even them thought that Med'an was a bit too much

[Ghostile]

"There must always be a Lich King" was the single worst lorerape they ever did, as that exact scenario already happened once in WC3, and it resulted in a part of the Scourge gaining free will (Forsaken), not the Scourge going amok...

"In the wake of Illidan's failed attempt to melt the icy continent of Northrend, the powerful energies possessed by the Lich King inside his Frozen Throne slowly began to decay. Inexorably this resulted in a partial loss of control of the more distant Scourge forces. The result was that many undead under the Lich King's mental domination had their conscious will restored."

Doesn't sound like "exact same scenario"

[DemonHunter18]

BfA alone has a lot, a LOT of facepalm worthy moments.

how about WoW in general

[ThrashMetalFtw]

"In the wake of Illidan's failed attempt to melt the icy continent of Northrend, the powerful energies possessed by the Lich King inside his Frozen Throne slowly began to decay. Inexorably this resulted in a partial loss of control of the more distant Scourge forces. The result was that many undead under the Lich King's mental domination had their conscious will restored."

Doesn't sound like "exact same scenario"

No, the difference is that the entire Scourge would regain free will if the LK was dead, instead of just a portion.

Or are you actually trying to argue that the Scourge running amok, instead of just regaining free will (like last time), is something that makes sense in the context of Blizzards own lore?

[Ardenaso]

"There must always be a Lich King" was the single worst lorerape they ever did, as that exact scenario already happened once in WC3, and it resulted in a part of the Scourge gaining free will (Forsaken), not the Scourge going amok...

the Scourge was going amok though

Kael'thas: Curious. I don't know about any demon, but something's riled the undead based at Dalaran. They've been hounding us day and night. We were about to abandon this post and seek refuge on the other side of the River Arevass.

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No, the difference is that the entire Scourge would regain free will if the LK was dead, instead of just a portion.

Or are you actually trying to argue that the Scourge running amok, instead of just regaining free will (like last time), is something that makes sense in the context of Blizzards own lore?

to be fair if a dead person who just woken up and sees themselves as some hideous zombie, they'd be running amok in confusion - which was already evident in feral Forsaken

[Soon-TM]

how about WoW in general

Well, yes... But they used to be quite spread out - until WoD, that is. What a lore carfire was that.

[ThrashMetalFtw]

Kael'thas: Curious. I don't know about any demon, but something's riled the undead based at Dalaran. They've been hounding us day and night. We were about to abandon this post and seek refuge on the other side of the River Arevass.

Considering that Illidan hasn't cast the spell aiming to destroy Northrend yet at this point, that line was more likely a reference to Illidan attacking and capturing Dalaran, which is where the spell is cast and the next mission happens.

[DemonHunter18]

Well, yes... But they used to be quite spread out - until WoD, that is. What a lore carfire was that.

I think TBC is second close, at least when it comes to butchering 3 characters in one go xd

[Zequill]

Not sure if Chronicle have ever explain that but the Blackrock Clan, from Draenor, have chosen the mountain know as the Blackrock Moutain as their headquarter, without knowing that the mountain was named as such before. What a coincidence...

[Beloren]

Making titans world souls. That's just weird.

[sam86]

In my opinion the fact that Muradin didn´t die in War 3 it´s unbeatable for me. What was the hole purpose for that?

Ah, and also kill Arthas way too early.

i'd say he died in perfect time, if anything wow is really outdated by now
wow reached a status where u have at least 2 mounts for every single day of entire year, enough gear designs to transmog daily, and so on
i love wow, but i keep feeling now what? we need wow to end, wc4, then u can make wow2, specially since wow mmo format + 2 faction restriction is limiting story advance in actual direction instead of loops

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Not sure if Chronicle have ever explain that but the Blackrock Clan, from Draenor, have chosen the mountain know as the Blackrock Moutain as their headquarter, without knowing that the mountain was named as such before. What a coincidence...

blackrock is a little generic name
the joke was dragonmaw clan, they retconned it but still was for long time not making any sense
then we get shattered hand clan 'retconned' to be collection of thugs and not actual clan

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WoD.
Time travel done right is incredibly hard and a company that constantly retreads narratives cannot ever hope to do a convincing job. I don't think WoW will ever recover from WoD, not only because it's a bad expansion, but also because each and every player must make the choice to ignore that it ever happened in order to enjoy the rest of the game (infinite legion? duplicate people? infinite multiverses?).

Up until WoD every last expansion was the worst according to the forums. Now the general consensus is that WoD is the most garbage thing to ever exist. If you look carefully, you will notice that we don't get threads like "X expansion is the worst!" anymore; rather, we get threads like "BfA is possibly worse than WoD!", acknowledging that WoD was the bottom of the barrel or close to it.

People during Shadowlands will post threads like "SL is possibly worse than WoD!", and that's entirely normal, because WoD is rightfully synonymous with the lowest low ever achieved by WoW.

That's how much WoD sucks

no
wrath was generally positive, MoP many thought cata was worse (by mop end, mop launch is one of worst launch in wow)
the idea that 'current exp is worse' never happened, legion was never considered worst during any time in its lifetime, wod was considered best pre 6.1, while Cata was still considered worse than MoP during MoP era (specially after 5.2)
BFA compete with WoD in term of WoD sh8ttiness, sometimes WoD wins other BFA wins, however no one argue that both exp are the worst in wow history
Honestly even now I'm not sure which is worse, BFA has lot of content but class itself is sh8t, while WoD had an entire patch added a selfie cam, and a raid that was tested in beta

[Mouri Kogorou]

turning garrosh into a villian because of thrall wanabes.

[George Lucas]

Thought a bit about various things.

Titan world souls are really stupid. Titans should be the epitome of order. Planets are the epitome of disorder in the continuity of space. If planets must be sentient, they should be old god (chaos) affiliated.

Light vs Void is also a really stupid concept, in the sense of armies facing off each other. The light and void should be abstract concepts, without marvel super hero overlord beings embodying this concepts. Naaru/probably future morally grey light lords and void lords really reduce all stories about light and void to some pseudo-scientific religious struggle, that can be overcome by really intelligent centrist secular democracy from our enlightened current year.

Shadowlands as a whole is also a really dumb concept. A neverending sea of different versions of afterlife, with no meaning that transcends the shackles of the mortal world, is even more boring, than running to your corps through a blue tinted version of reality, to be reborn right were you died, to continue your everlasting quest of killing feral wolves and multi-dimensional gods. I really hope that the shadowlands turn out to be just a pseudo afterlife created by extremely powerful beings that are scared of the possibilities of real death.