Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Kaleredar]

There's no telling what kind of fuckery is still waiting in the shadows. In a fair contest I'd agree with you. Trump doesn't fight fair.

Honestly I'm surprised how little actual intimidation and violence there was. Immensely relieved.

I’m partially consoled by the fact that, while the Supreme Court did hand bush the presidency in 2000, there are a few key distinctions here:

1) it is plausible that Biden pulls ahead in multiple states. Challenging all of them would be far, far more difficult than in just one.

2) in 2000, if I recall correctly, Bush had been declared the victor and Gore’s campaign contested. That’s distinctly different from Biden winning a state, trump contesting it and then trump being awarded it instead. In fact, it’d be, at least from a precedent standpoint, the functional exact opposite of what occurred in 2000.

[Redwyrm]

When is Georgia gonna be announced? I know it's a toss-up, but they said they'd give updates over an hour ago on the NYTs.

They are reporting that the GA Secretary of State is promising to have all votes counted by the end of today

[fwc577]

Why won't decision desk update Wisconsin now that Wisconsin is saying they're 100% counted?

[Milchshake]

2) in 2000, if I recall correctly, Bush had been declared the victor and Gore’s campaign contested. That’s distinctly different from Biden winning a state, trump contesting it and then trump being awarded it instead. In fact, it’d be, at least from a precedent standpoint, the functional exact opposite of what occurred in 2000.

Tom Wolff as the exact opposite of Jeb Bush ... an accurate take.

[TigTone]

Jeez, our citizens or at least our future citizens need to be smarter and better educated to fight off populism and charismatic greedy politicians.

[thilicen]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Trump tweets are ramping up

[Rozz]

@Breccia @Redwyrm

Gotcha, gotcha. I know we're not depending on that flip but it'd sure be damn nice

[beanman12345]

Well it's clear now that this is close enough to be disputed. Biden is slightly ahead and likely to eventually win, but this will take a while. If McConnel is anything to go by, the GOP is calmly preparing for a drawn out legal war and it's safe to assume that Biden is doing the same.

The second thing that is clear now is that Trumpism is not only alive but thriving. This reality will be problematic even if Biden ends up winning.

IDK McConnel won the senate. He has nothing to worry about now in regards to courts, which is all he cares about. I don't think he's gonna fight for trump here.

[Redwyrm]

Edit: Forgot to source https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blo...ults-coverage/

Arizona: While Fox News and the Associated Press have projected Arizona for Biden, the other outlets — including ABC News — have not. Before the election, officials did warn that any super-close races might not be resolved until the last votes are counted on Thursday or Friday. Biden has a 3-point lead over Trump, with 86 percent of the expected vote reported. Maricopa County, where the largest remainder of uncounted ballots are, has finished tabulating all its in-person Election Day votes and will release more results at 9 p.m. tonight.

Nevada: The race is very tight — Biden has a very slight lead — and all in-person votes have been counted. But a count of late-arriving mail ballots and provisional ballots, which tend to be Democratic, is still to come tomorrow.

Wisconsin: The Wisconsin Elections Commission Administrator has told NBC reporters that all the votes are in. If there’s nothing more to count, then Biden would seem to have won that state by 20,697 votes, but that’s still within the 1 percent margin that would allow the Trump campaign to request a recount, though. Also, just in case you’re seeing one of the many disinformation scams out there, Wisconsin has 3,684,726 active voters and counted 3,288,771 votes. ABC News has not issued a projection here, as the Decision Desk won’t project races where the margin is within 1 percentage point.

Georgia: Trump is ahead in a tight race, but significant votes are outstanding in the Atlanta metro area. The big holdups here appear to be Democratic-leaning DeKalb County, Fulton County, Gwinnett County, and Cobb County. We could have some more information relatively soon, though — Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said that he expects most of that vote to be tallied later today, per the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Michigan: Biden holds a narrow 0.7-point margin here, and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson said around 11:30 a.m. Eastern that there are still tens of thousands of ballots to count. But the place that appears to have the most outstanding votes is heavily Democratic Wayne County (Detroit), which may make it difficult for Trump to recover here after leading throughout much of the night.

Pennsylvania: Trump is ahead by 9 points with 79 percent of the expected vote in, but the state has “millions of ballots” left to count, according to Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar. This includes about half of its mail-in ballots, which the state was not allowed to start processing until yesterday morning. Many of these votes come from Democratic-leaning areas, like Philadelphia and its collar counties, plus a handful of more Republican-leaning counties in the northwest part of the state. Going into the election, many county and state election officials predicted that results wouldn’t approach completion until Friday.

Maine: Biden leads here by about 12 points statewide, with 76 percent of the expected vote having been reported. And the ABC News Decision Desk just projected Biden to win the state’s two statewide electoral votes. He also leads in Maine’s 1st Congressional District, 61 percent to 36 percent, so Biden looks on track to get three of Maine’s electoral votes. However, Trump leads 51 percent to 45 percent in Maine’s 2nd Congressional District, so he may be able to hold onto its one electoral vote. It appears that the 2nd District, which is mostly in the northern reaches of the state, is where much of the unreported votes are from. But it’s tough to say when we’ll know more, as election officials are taking much longer here than they originally expected. Moreover, because of the state’s ranked-choice voting system, any race where no candidate has a majority of first-place votes would then have to go through the reallocation process, which would take a while to complete.

North Carolina: Ninety-five percent of the expected vote has already been counted here, so it seems quite possible that all we’re waiting on are late-arriving mail-in ballots, which have until Nov. 12 to arrive. That means we could be waiting over a week for a call here.

[Thekri]

2) in 2000, if I recall correctly, Bush had been declared the victor and Gore’s campaign contested. That’s distinctly different from Biden winning a state, trump contesting it and then trump being awarded it instead. In fact, it’d be, at least from a precedent standpoint, the functional exact opposite of what occurred in 2000.

That has never stopped them before. I distinctly remember something being the completely opposite precedent for a Supreme Court Justice, and that was just last week.

That said, yes, it makes a big difference. Because the Supreme Court can't just arbitrarily award a state to Trump. They have to actually validate or invalidate a batch of ballots. Right now, it is very unclear exactly what population of ballots the GOP wants to target. Stopping recounts is relatively easy, but Trump's legal team has to actually change the results. That is pretty hard to do.

[fwc577]

Wisconsin apparently has more votes than voters

https://elections.wi.gov/node/7220 says there's 3684 thousand registered votes. Right now there's 3287 thousand votes cast at 95% of ballots being count so total should be around 3460 which is less than 3684. Piss off with lying.

Want to know something strange?

You could both be right.

Wisconsin has same day registration. The numbers of registered voters are as of November 1st and not post-election.

It's very possible Wisconsin casts more votes on November 3rd than they had registered voters on November 1st.

I will say, at my voting locating in Wisconsin, there was a decent line of young kids registering in the late afternoon. I was in-and-out in about 5 minutes but while I was there, I saw about 6-10 people in their 20s registering to vote.

[omerome]

Jeez, our citizens or at least our future citizens need to be smarter and better educated to fight off populism and charismatic greedy politicians.

Aint gonna happen when people keep voting against their own interests. Any politician that proposes better healthcare, education, or a clean environment sounds nice, but once they watch Faux News and hear the "S" word, they would rather light themselves on fire.

This quote pretty much tells it all:

You know how your parents used to call every console a "Nintendo"?

That's how conservatives use the word "socialist" to describe everything to the left of hunting the homeless for sport.

https://twitter.com/voodoo_pork/stat...74492103581697

[DingDongKing]

Georgia has started reporting. Slowly. 4k for Trump, 17k for Biden. Hold onto your hats, but don't get excited. Absentee votes were really equal.

[beanman12345]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Trump tweets are ramping up

jeez like half of his tweets are blocked by twitter. epic meltdown.

[Underverse]

The fact that a demented, authoritarian, lawless con man with ~300,000 American deaths on his hands got so many votes speaks volumes of our intelligence as a nation. It's pathetic. It's fucking disgusting. Who are these half-brained troglodytes casting votes red?

Get out & VOTE! Under my Administration, our ECONOMY is growing at the fastest rate EVER at 33.1%. Next year will be the GREATEST ECONOMIC YEAR in American History!

whatthefuckiswrongwiththisman

[SavoirFaire]

Real question is if Biden wins, how long will it take for the Trump threads to close andd and Gen-OT trafic plummets

The Politics sub was born of the Trump election. Should it die when he’s out of office?

[Breccia]

They could be if we ignore what kind of ballots are left and where they are coming from.

In an honest election, yes.

Trump doesn't want one.

[Skulltaker]

jeez like half of his tweets are blocked by twitter. epic meltdown.

Honestly, at this point, I'm surprised he's not in a hospital... he's probably 20% adrenaline at this point. He'll collapse hard once the election is over.

[Fugus]

Honestly, at this point, I'm surprised he's not in a hospital... he's probably 20% adrenaline at this point. He'll collapse hard once the election is over.

Plot twist, he has a heart attack and a series of mini-strokes before the day is over.

[DingDongKing]

Plot twist, he has a heart attack and a series of mini-strokes before the day is over.

I don't wish death on many. Him? Yeah.
[Infraction]