You're not going to get anything even resembling M4A without building sufficient support for it in congress first. No matter who the president is, congress still holds the purse strings.
It's just the political realities of the current situation that progressives have nowhere close to the amount of presence needed in the right places to make it happen.
At the very least the Democratic Party could support Medicare for All as part of their party platform so I and others at least know they WANT to fight for it when they get a path to pass it. They voted it down as party of the Democratic Party platform at the last Democratic convention even though a majority of Democratic voters support it.
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With RCV if there was a tie, Jorgensen wouldn't win, because they had the least amount of votes. In RCV there has to be an actual majority for the candidate to win unlike now where it's a plurality.
Here's video on how RCV works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHRPMJmzBBw
Sure, it would be but one step among many.
Again, that's not how RCV actually works. It allows for multiple parties to exist without the risk of one candidate playing spoiler to a somewhat similar candidate, even in a FPTP system. The only possibility for a spoiler would be in the Presidential race, due to the nature of the Electoral College.
Obviously, the hope would be that a) RCV would promote more honest third-party options for every race other than the Presidency, and b) the country continues trying to find a way to end the EC, probably through the NPVIC.
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Why? This is what I mean about aspirational politics. Who gives a shit what they support if it's impossible. Fuck party platforms. If you want M4A you need to create a situation where it's possible to pass M4A not scream at how terrible the DNC is from the outside. That was the opportunity this year, and both the left-center and the left utterly shit the bed.
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Not just messaging, but saturation. We are winning the culture wars in a broad sense, but it's time to turn those wins into votes and longterm party gains. You only do that by pushing your win into the suburbs and rural areas too.
As much as people say this, he actually does. Republicans look at what their base wants, like crackdown on immigration, and then craft immigration policies to fuck over immigrants like upping ICE, and then they craft slogans like "Build the Wall" to go along with those policies. Ask yourself, how do you know that "Build the Wall" is racist? It is because of the racist policies and messaging behind it.
Democrats look at an activist created slogan like "Defund the Police" and ignore it and craft no messaging or narrative behind it, it is no surprise when Republicans then turn around and use it as an opening to attack them on since they're not even bothering to talk about it.
yes but the problem is you dont actualy vote for a presedential candidate, you vote for electoral representatives and the state awards all of them to the candidate with the most votes, so the method you use to vote dosn't actual matter who ever gets the most preferance still gets 100% of the vote from thats states electoral colledge, and its that principle that drives america into its current state of two parties, more nuanced voting wont change anything in a winner takes all system.
It's a little bit hard to understand the benefit of it, I guess (as evidenced by me asking if anyone can think of a downside), but it's not hard to understand how to actually vote in an RCV system.
As the ones who would have to be convinced would be state legislatures, I'm less concerned with whether or not the layperson understands the full logic, as long as they can accept the fact that it allows them more flexibility in their choice for whom they vote.
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils