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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    McEnemy calls state coronavirus restrictions for Thanksgiving 'Orwellian'

    "Does she know what that--"

    No. The headline is so ironic it's magnetic.
    Ah, the push and pull of, "We love states rights!...just sometimes...not this time...or any time it inconveniences us...let's revisit this later."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Specifically, Rep. Kinzinger (R-IL) said what Trump did with the CISA head is part of a "loyalty purge".
    They want yes men rather than people to tell the truth. Republicans need to look back and reflect.

    “Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigTone View Post
    Why México...?

    I thought they were afraid of the “Bad Hombres”
    It’s troll bots...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wunksta View Post
    They want yes men rather than people to tell the truth.
    Acting yes men.

    But it's just so petty. Everyone in the WH knows they've lost, even if Trump is pretending to get more money. Firing someone a month early does nothing other than show how vindictive you are. It's what a weak man does to appear strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Acting yes men.

    But it's just so petty. Everyone in the WH knows they've lost, even if Trump is pretending to get more money. Firing someone a month early does nothing other than show how vindictive you are. It's what a weak man does to appear strong.
    Trump is nothing but petty and has been since before he was president. But to see other GOP cheer him for that just shows that they remain completely spineless.

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    Trump supporters in 2016: "I hate Mexicans! Build the damn wall!"

    Trump supporters in 2020: "I hate America! I'm moving to Mexico!"


    I mean... this reality is truly the strangest timeline.


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    and genius is that genius has its limits."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wunksta View Post
    They want yes men rather than people to tell the truth. Republicans need to look back and reflect.
    “Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”
    ― Theodore Roosevelt
    Unfortunately, the GOP is looking at 2020 as a win. They will do anything other than reflect and change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passingthrew View Post
    Confirmed @Benggaul is Donald Trump
    Reported for malicious attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Oh boy, and Chief of Staff Mark Meadows is now openly signaling that there might be a government shutdown next month.
    Trump is flipping the table.

    He is doing nothing to combat the pandemic he personally caused.

    He is stoking the flames in the Middle East and doing so on purpose.

    And yes, threatening to shut down the government.

    No wonder the Trump supporters are all hiding in their bunkers. This is objectively undefendable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.businessinsider.com/mark...ration-2020-11

    Oh boy, and Chief of Staff Mark Meadows is now openly signaling that there might be a government shutdown next month.

    Because that's what you want in the middle of a pandemic, when you have a lame-duck administration and a desperate need for stimulus that the Republican party has refused to take seriously.

    The Republican party is the anti-American party and just wants to see people suffer at this point.
    Trump is flipping the table.

    He is doing nothing to combat the pandemic he personally caused.

    He is stoking the flames in the Middle East and doing so on purpose.

    And yes, threatening to shut down the government.

    No wonder the Trump supporters are all hiding in their bunkers. This is objectively undefendable.
    This is the slash and burn we [sort of] knew was going to happen when Trump lost the election. And this won't be the end of it.

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    Trump isn't just losing in court in election-related cases.

    Axios: Judge blocks border officials from expelling unaccompanied migrant children
    A federal judge in Washington, D.C., ordered the Trump administration on Wednesday to stop the expulsion of migrant children who cross the border alone — a policy enabled by a March emergency order by the Centers for Disease Control because of the coronavirus pandemic.

    Why it matters: As of September, nearly 9,000 unaccompanied migrant children had been expelled because of the CDC order.

    What they're saying: "Today’s ruling is a critical step in halting the Trump administration’s unprecedented and illegal attempt to expel children under the thin guise of public health," ACLU's Lee Gelernt, the lead attorney in the case, said in a statement.

    "The administration’s order has already allowed for the rapid expulsion of more than 13,000 children in need of protection, who were legally entitled to apply for asylum."

    The big picture: Thousands of migrant children, families and adults from different countries have been sent to Mexico, at times violating a diplomatic agreement with Mexico, the New York Times Caitlin Dickerson reported.

    • More than 197,00 migrants have been quickly expelled after reaching the border because of the CDC's emergency order, according to CBP data.
    • Before the March order, unaccompanied migrant minors were required to be put in the care of the Office of Refugee Resettlement, which oversees a network of child migrant shelters and seeks to release migrant children to family members or other sponsors who are already in the U.S.


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    Why hasn't Giuliani been disbarred yet?

    Watching him do his best to drag US democracy through the mud is simply awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Reported for malicious attack.
    I apologize.

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    Imagine being so far up Trump's ass you think it's reasonable to compare him to Lincoln.

    What a fucking idiot. If Lincoln was Trump, he'd have spent the Civil War golfing, whining about how mean the Confederates were and downplaying their strength . . . or just straight up joining them.

    Lincoln is magnitudes better than Trump, not just as President, but as a human being. Comparing Trump to Lincoln is an insult to Lincoln's legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Imagine being so far up Trump's ass you think it's reasonable to compare him to Lincoln.

    What a fucking idiot. If Lincoln was Trump, he'd have spent the Civil War golfing, whining about how mean the Confederates were and downplaying their strength . . . or just straight up joining them.

    Lincoln is magnitudes better than Trump, not just as President, but as a human being. Comparing Trump to Lincoln is an insult to Lincoln's legacy.
    Its like this shit as well. I'll never understand how someone can think that about Donald Trump.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...oters-74251338

    Ewell’s post told Biden supporters to “unfriend” him and accused them of corrupting not only the election but “our youth … our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
    Why hasn't Giuliani been disbarred yet?

    Watching him do his best to drag US democracy through the mud is simply awful.
    He hasn't been disbarred but he has been susbended from the DC bar for not paying his dues. So he actually committed perjury yesterday in his pro hac vice petition to appear in court yesterday by swearing he was in good standing in all courts, when he isn't. and until he does pays those dues, he'll have more perjury charges coming to him in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Imagine being so far up Trump's ass you think it's reasonable to compare him to Lincoln.

    What a fucking idiot. If Lincoln was Trump, he'd have spent the Civil War golfing, whining about how mean the Confederates were and downplaying their strength . . . or just straight up joining them.

    Lincoln is magnitudes better than Trump, not just as President, but as a human being. Comparing Trump to Lincoln is an insult to Lincoln's legacy.
    Lincoln was progressive. If trump was running against Lincoln today he'd be calling him a socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Trump supporters in 2016: "I hate Mexicans! Build the damn wall!"

    Trump supporters in 2020: "I hate America! I'm moving to Mexico!"


    I mean... this reality is truly the strangest timeline.
    Name one issue, cause, platform plank, angry chant, etc., that they haven't contradicted themselves on.....this is literally their MO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Name one issue, cause, platform plank, angry chant, etc., that they haven't contradicted themselves on.....this is literally their MO.
    I dunno, they seem to be pretty consistent as far as their "Jews will not replace us" chant/philosophy goes.
    “Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.” -- Donald J. Trump, 2013

    "I don't take responsibility at all."
    -- Donald J. Trump, 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursus View Post
    I dunno, they seem to be pretty consistent as far as their "Jews will not replace us" chant/philosophy goes.
    They claim the Dems hate Israel.

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    Cool, so a new Danish study came out proving that wearing masks helps prevent the spread of COVID-19 to others but doesn't protect the wearer so much--which has ALWAYS been the case and the reason given for wearing masks since the start of the pandemic--and of course the QAnon/Trump supporter/conspiracy theory crowd has picked it up and run with their "SEE? MASKS DON'T WORK!" narrative.

    The US is fucked.

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