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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    [But my opinion, and Jack Dorsey, I want to be clear, shares this opinion, is that we should not have permabans.

    LOL guess they won't be permabanning those people who post illegal pictures of children.
    Gotta let them back on to do it again for free speech and all.....
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    I like how at no point in his rambling does he actually explain why permabans are a bad thing; just endlessly restating that "they shouldn't exist because reasons."
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  3. #583
    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Elon Musk says he would reverse Twitter's Trump ban.

    This is how Trump's 2024 campaign will start. Trump himself said during the 2016 campaign that he couldn't believe how amazing Twitter and social media was for free advertising. And he was right - more than $2B was attributed to his social media posts, predominantly on Twitter.
    Apparently trying to violently overthrow the US government, being the main source of misinformation on COVID leading to a lot of people dying of the disease isn't according to Musk "wrong and bad" or "destructive to the world".

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    Tesla stock in free fall .... only if Mike Pence had the courage to stop this.



    Say hi to Moskva for me!

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    Tesla stock in free fall .... only if Mike Pence had the courage to stop this.



    Say hi to Moskva for me!
    does he still have that bitcoin stash at tesla? yikes
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    "I got banned for having a conservative viewpoint!"
    "I got banned for wrongthink!"
    "I got banned because I want more border security!"

    These are always the complaints conservatives give when they cry about getting banned from twitter. How it's somehow Twitter's political agenda and not them. But people seem to forget, when shit stains get banned, it's almost always because they deserved it. "I got banned for having a conservative viewpoint," is that guy who tweeted out that all LGBT people need conversion therapy or a bullet to the head. He passes it off as "conservative viewpoint" because that sounds better and garners him more sympathy from the slobbering right wing who believe themselves victims. And it doesn't sound as bad as admitting you wanted to kill people.

    "I got banned because I want more border security" is from a Karen who tweeted that Mexicans are rapists, murderers, and drug dealers. Again, these people say awful things and then when they're going around trying to gain sympathy, they try to make their horrible viewpoints more kosher.

    And the best part is, all of these people are going to be banned even on Musk's Twitter. Why? Because daddy Elon isn't going to protect you from your own stupidity.

    Take this as a lesson conservative asshats: If you were ACTUALLY just banned because of your conservative viewpoints, then in reality you should be fine. I have friends who people who state their political opinions with respect to those around them, and who are intelligent and capable of supporting viewpoints with logic instead of fevered emotions. If, on the other hand, you were actually banned because you were a terrible person who said terrible things and then tried to pass it off as if you were being persecuted by evil liberals, then you're still gonna be banned in Elon's Twitter, get rekt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    "I got banned for having a conservative viewpoint!"
    "I got banned for wrongthink!"
    "I got banned because I want more border security!"

    These are always the complaints conservatives give when they cry about getting banned from twitter. How it's somehow Twitter's political agenda and not them. But people seem to forget, when shit stains get banned, it's almost always because they deserved it. "I got banned for having a conservative viewpoint," is that guy who tweeted out that all LGBT people need conversion therapy or a bullet to the head. He passes it off as "conservative viewpoint" because that sounds better and garners him more sympathy from the slobbering right wing who believe themselves victims. And it doesn't sound as bad as admitting you wanted to kill people.

    "I got banned because I want more border security" is from a Karen who tweeted that Mexicans are rapists, murderers, and drug dealers. Again, these people say awful things and then when they're going around trying to gain sympathy, they try to make their horrible viewpoints more kosher.

    And the best part is, all of these people are going to be banned even on Musk's Twitter. Why? Because daddy Elon isn't going to protect you from your own stupidity.

    Take this as a lesson conservative asshats: If you were ACTUALLY just banned because of your conservative viewpoints, then in reality you should be fine. I have friends who people who state their political opinions with respect to those around them, and who are intelligent and capable of supporting viewpoints with logic instead of fevered emotions. If, on the other hand, you were actually banned because you were a terrible person who said terrible things and then tried to pass it off as if you were being persecuted by evil liberals, then you're still gonna be banned in Elon's Twitter, get rekt.
    The drug dealers and rapists crossing the border from Mexico happened last month. They returned to classes after spring break in Mexico.
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    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

  8. #588
    Musk: I think the, if there are tweets that are wrong, they should, and bad, those should be either deleted or made invisible. And a suspension, a temporary suspension, is appropriate. But not a permanent ban.
    This is a fairly broad admission that there will continue to be censorship, just not in the form of permanent bans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    This is a fairly broad admission that there will continue to be censorship, just not in the form of permanent bans.
    Made invisible? Like, shadowbans? I heard those are just the worst and like, even worse than a normal ban because folks won't know they're shadowbanned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    This is a fairly broad admission that there will continue to be censorship, just not in the form of permanent bans.
    "Censorship" is not, in and of itself, a "bad thing".

    Everyone agrees with that statement, if they're honest.

    Because the alternative is that you support the public transmission of child pornography to everyone, without being able to take it down once posted. You've just gotta leave that child porn up and viewable, because taking it down would be censorship.

    So once you admit that "censorship can be the absolutely appropriate response, depending on context, no matter your partisan views", your whole little protest argument falls completely apart.

    So which is it? Were you dishonest about your own principles? Or do you support the dissemination and broadcast of child porn? It's one or the other, here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    This is a fairly broad admission that there will continue to be censorship, just not in the form of permanent bans.
    Huh what? The way I see it everything will be fine because Elon Musk isn't going to let leftists censor pro-billionaire/anti-socialism content in the future. That's what is actually important, all the other issues are just fluff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Elon Musk says he would reverse Twitter's Trump ban.

    This is how Trump's 2024 campaign will start. Trump himself said during the 2016 campaign that he couldn't believe how amazing Twitter and social media was for free advertising. And he was right - more than $2B was attributed to his social media posts, predominantly on Twitter.
    Those who buy Teslas generally aren't the type of people who would vote for Trump. he should reconsider this move before he has far less customers in the US.
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    The Quartering has decided to use the Elon Musk drama, as a teachable moment. Reminding everyone that he still a neo-nazi/alt-right jagoff.
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  14. #594
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Huh what? The way I see it everything will be fine because Elon Musk isn't going to let leftists censor pro-billionaire/anti-socialism content in the future. That's what is actually important, all the other issues are just fluff.
    I do love your imagination. You come up with the most interesting, baseless fantasies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Huh what? The way I see it everything will be fine because Elon Musk isn't going to let leftists censor pro-billionaire/anti-socialism content in the future. That's what is actually important, all the other issues are just fluff.
    How is this remotely connected to what I posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Made invisible? Like, shadowbans? I heard those are just the worst and like, even worse than a normal ban because folks won't know they're shadowbanned.
    If people worry Elon is going to make Twitter an uncensored hellsite, they need to reckon with his literal condoning of censorship, tweet-shadowbans, and temp bans. It’s in the interview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I do love your imagination. You come up with the most interesting, baseless fantasies.
    lol weren't you one of those people who was like "billionaires shouldn't exist"? If lefties don't even think billionaires should exist then it stands to reason that they will be even more angry at Elon Musk when he becomes a trillionaire in the coming years. They don't think he has a right to exist with the wealth he has earned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    lol weren't you one of those people who was like "billionaires shouldn't exist"? If lefties don't even think billionaires should exist then it stands to reason that they will be even more angry at Elon Musk when he becomes a trillionaire in the coming years. They don't think he has a right to exist with the wealth he has earned.
    That's nice dear but what has this to do with your assertion there's existing or any planned "anti-billionaire" censorship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    lol weren't you one of those people who was like "billionaires shouldn't exist"?
    Yes, which has what to do with your post, exactly?

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    If lefties don't even think billionaires should exist
    I do not work for Twitter, so my personal opinion is irrelevant to your claim, which you haven't even backed up with evidence that your claim actually exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    They don't think he has a right to exist with the wealth he has earned.
    Yes to right to exist, no to that level of wealth concentration which historically has proven disastrous to a prosperous society.

    Again though, that's a separate philosophical discussion unrelated to Twitter and your claim that "leftists censor pro-billionaire/anti-socialist content".

    Still waiting on some evidence for that claim, but given your past posting history my expectations are fairly low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    lol weren't you one of those people who was like "billionaires shouldn't exist"? If lefties don't even think billionaires should exist then it stands to reason that they will be even more angry at Elon Musk when he becomes a trillionaire in the coming years. They don't think he has a right to exist with the wealth he has earned.
    The existence of billionaires (at current currency values) concurrent with levels of serious poverty and economic hardship within the same economic system is a concrete demonstration that said economic system is failing to perform its function properly.

    Even by capitalist principles. Let alone socialist principles.

    I have no idea what particular disinfo source you're drawing from, but you're parroting harmful and wildly ignorant propaganda.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    That's nice dear but what has this to do with your assertion there's existing or any planned "anti-billionaire" censorship.
    I mean you guys are saying billionaires shouldn't exist and you want to silence anything that contradicts your political ideology... If progressives hadn't silenced other billionaires like Trump then Elon Musk wouldn't even have to buy Twitter in the first place in order to protect free expression.
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