Republican Election 2016 - Donald Trump Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Moralgy]

https://youtu.be/crAJD22NDoM?t=7m2s
Fucking wow

I love the Jan Brewer part the most.

[Pangean]

Well well. It seems that Donald has greater debts than previously thought. And who does he owe it to? Bank of China and Goldman Sachs amongst others. Hmmm who does/did he rail against?

"But an investigation by The New York Times into the financial maze of Mr. Trump’s real estate holdings in the United States reveals that companies he owns have at least $650 million in debt — twice the amount than can be gleaned from public filings he has made as part of his bid for the White House. "

Trump’s Empire: a Maze of Debts and Opaque Ties

On the campaign trail, Donald J. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, has sold himself as a businessman who has made billions of dollars and is beholden to no one.

But an investigation by The New York Times into the financial maze of Mr. Trump’s real estate holdings in the United States reveals that companies he owns have at least $650 million in debt — twice the amount than can be gleaned from public filings he has made as part of his bid for the White House. The Times’s inquiry also found that Mr. Trump’s fortunes depend deeply on a wide array of financial backers, including one he has cited in attacks during his campaign.

For example, an office building on Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, of which Mr. Trump is part owner, carries a $950 million loan. Among the lenders: the Bank of China, one of the largest banks in a country that Mr. Trump has railed against as an economic foe of the United States, and Goldman Sachs, a financial institution he has said controls Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, after it paid her $675,000 in speaking fees.

Real estate projects often involve complex ownership and mortgage structures. And given Mr. Trump’s long real estate career in the United States and abroad, as well as his claim that his personal wealth exceeds $10 billion, it is safe to say that no previous major party presidential nominee has had finances nearly as complicated.

As president, Mr. Trump would have substantial sway over monetary and tax policy, as well as the power to make appointments that would directly affect his own financial empire. He would also wield influence over legislative issues that could have a significant impact on his net worth, and would have official dealings with countries in which he has business interests.

Yet The Times’s examination underscored how much of Mr. Trump’s business remains shrouded in mystery. He has declined to disclose his tax returns or allow an independent valuation of his assets.

Earlier in the campaign, Mr. Trump submitted a 104-page federal financial disclosure form. It said his businesses owed at least $315 million to a relatively small group of lenders and listed ties to more than 500 limited liability companies. Though he answered the questions, the form appears to have been designed for candidates with simpler finances than his, and did not require disclosure of portions of his business activities.

Beyond finding that companies owned by Mr. Trump had debts of at least $650 million, The Times discovered that a substantial portion of his wealth is tied up in three passive partnerships that owe an additional $2 billion to a string of lenders, including those that hold the loan on the Avenue of the Americas building. If those loans were to go into default, Mr. Trump might not be held personally liable, but the value of his investments would sink.

Read the rest at: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us...=top-news&_r=0

[Thepersona]

So much hate for a minority, tolerance working as intended.

i dont tolerate stupid ideologies. i do not tolerate bigotry (from w/e religion and way of life) and xenophobia, mostly because its blatantly stupid. you want to curb the rights of some people based on how statistics works (like how some muslim countries outlaw homosexuality, when it should be as important to the state as if someone is left or right handed, how some stupid people bomb abortion clinics and kill medics who perform late term abrtions, that are done because of the risk on the mother, like how in 2016 there's still blatant racism in the US). i do consider that there are many muslims that are tolerant toward gay people, well, yes and many of them are among the younger generations (even in iran), like in every religion and way of life, the young ones see the imbecility of the older bigots, and understand that many of said "sins" are mere statistical events.
so no, i do not tolerate the alt-right.

[Bollocks]

so much hate for a minority, tolerance working as intended.

I'm white and i feel opressed.

[Saucexorzski]

i dont tolerate stupid ideologies. i do not tolerate bigotry (from w/e religion and way of life) and xenophobia, mostly because its blatantly stupid. you want to curb the rights of some people based on how statistic works (like how some muslim countries outlaw homosexuality, when it should be as important to the state as if someone is left or right handed, how some stupid people bomb abortion clinics and kill medics who perform late term abrtions, that are done because of the risk on the mother, etc). i do consider that there are many muslims that are tolerant toward gay people, well, yes and many of them are among the younger generations (even in iran).
so no, i do not tolerate the alt-right.

I'm perfectly aware that the left in the US can tolerate muslims but not southerners. It's comedy gold from my point of view. And while you champaign a great moral cause, I can't help to but think you are a bit naive.

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I'm white and i feel opressed.

Oh shit that's good...can you tell me what I want for lunch as well?

[Thepersona]

I'm perfectly aware that the left in the US can tolerate muslims but not southerners. It's comedy gold from my point of view. And while you champaign a great moral cause, I can't help to but think you are a bit naive.

i tolerate individuals, based on their behavior. as i've said before, statistics are an important thing. that's why the internet is important, it lets people from those countries learn and understand that many things that are morally wrong for a religion, are only events in a normal distribution.

[Saucexorzski]

i tolerate individuals, based on their behavior. as i've said before, statistics are an important thing

How are you measuring an individuals behavior with statistics of that individuals greater comunity?

[Bollocks]

I'm perfectly aware that the left in the US can tolerate muslims but not southerners. It's comedy gold from my point of view. And while you champaign a great moral cause, I can't help to but think you are a bit naive.

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Oh shit that's good...can you tell me what I want for lunch as well?

You're serious???? I thought we were just joking around. Of course feminists do not want to erradicate white hetero males.

[Saucexorzski]

You're serious???? I thought we were just joking around. Of course feminists do not want to erradicate white hetero males.

Why eradicate when you can subjugate.

[Thepersona]

You're serious???? I thought we were just joking around. Of course feminists do not want to erradicate white hetero males.

we were joking, he took it seriously, and i gave a serious answer... now i'm joking again
remember folks, the dems are here to take ur guns and secede the power to the UN for a muslim marxist satanist feminist superpower!

[alexw]

The Left's tactics are textbook. These guys parrot the talking points that come right through HRC and the DNC fax machines. Its proven in their own writings and emails that got "whoops" hacked, just like our nation's National Security info on HRC's bathroom server. The facts are well documented. Just like the fact Huma Abdein, HRC's right hand woman, worked for the Muslim Brotherhood, a known Terrorist Organization, her parents are still members.

The shooters as of late? yup all Saudi and Muslim ties. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck guys.

The Lefts tactic now is to attempt to call it all "conspiracy" and hope the public dismisses it, after all the Mainstream Media hardly touches it except when the can't ignore it, as they desperately cling to some shred of relativity.


The real scary part for the Leftists is that America has woken up. Just like Europeans have to the Globalist tactics by George Soros and the EU bureaucrats. Look at Brexit and the others lining up to flee as their country's sovereignty is being undermined.

Guess what leftists? The Independent voters AND the Bernie people saw through your facade. It's over for you. Make America Great again! Shill all you want, there is no stopping this movement of Nationalism. You brought it upon yourselves.

Yes that's why Trump is down 5-15 points in most swing states, Clinton is polling competitively in places like Georgia, and is behind by only ~5 points in extremely red states like Kansas and Texas.

You white supremacists are getting crucified politically and your candidate is going down in flames. It's just laughable to read your delusional nonsense. You should stop tuning into nutters like Michael Savage and Rush Limburgh and join reality.

[Saucexorzski]

we were joking, he took it seriously, and i gave a serious answer... now i'm joking again
remember folks, the dems are here to take ur guns and secede the power to the UN for a muslim marxist satanist feminist superpower!

That's my not be what you want but it where your current path will lead you.

[Thepersona]

That's my not be what you want but it where your current path will lead you.

that's not what's going to happen. the power structure in the world is much more complex than you think, with power struggles, core-periphereal relationships and so on

[alexw]

I'm perfectly aware that the left in the US can tolerate muslims but not southerners. It's comedy gold from my point of view. And while you champaign a great moral cause, I can't help to but think you are a bit naive.

Tolerance ends when you try to write discrimination into law. The only group I see trying to do that right now are you southern bigots.

[Bollocks]

Why eradicate when you can subjugate.

No, you're mistaken. Feminists are a unique species that only lay their eggs in the bodies of white hetero males. Though some scientists believe that they are as target practices for the feminlings.

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That's my not be what you want but it where your current path will lead you.

I highly doubt democrats can take away the second amendment and I higly doubt that muslims can outpopulace all of the entire world. Also I feel like the menace of feminists is well overblown.

[Thepersona]

No, you're mistaken. Feminists are a unique species that only lay their eggs in the bodies of white hetero males. Though some scientists believe that they are as target practices for the feminlings.

I highly doubt democrats can take away the second amendment and I higly doubt that muslims can outpopulace all of the entire world. Also I feel like the menace of feminists is well overblown.

they are like the alien monster, but with weird hair color

[Saucexorzski]

Tolerance ends when you try to write discrimination into law. The only group I see trying to do that right now are you southern bigots.

Just because I live in florida now is no reason to call me a southerner, Colorado is where my heart is! But my 87 year old grandma needs someone to take care of her and I'm just to old fashion not to.

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No, you're mistaken. Feminists are a unique species that only lay their eggs in the bodies of white hetero males. Though some scientists believe that they are as target practices for the feminlings.

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I highly doubt democrats can take away the second amendment and I higly doubt that muslims can outpopulace all of the entire world. Also I feel like the menace of feminists is well overblown.

They don't have the ability to strike the 2nd yet but they would in a heart beat just to be like our euro brothers and sisters. Just like abortion rights gun rights must be protected with diligence.

[Cthulhu 2020]

This is not a example of him lying, but exaggerating and disagreeing with officials. This insert from your link makes it clear ;

Trump’s account of what went wrong at the rally and who was to blame is questionable.

There were 1,100 people -- not "thousands" as he said -- in the overflow room who watched his speech on a TV screen.

There was a line of people left outside, but it’s unclear if included "thousands of people," as he said.

Politicfact will use terms like "pants on fire" as if in reference to lying, when it may really be flat out wrong. There is a difference. Hillary's lying about a issue dealing with national security is a far worse case even if he was lying.

One thing for sure Trump is guilty of is being wrong about some things and exaggerating.

He blatantly lied about what the fire marshals told him. He lied and exaggerated about several things.

[Nfinitii]

Trump is in Louisiana, Obama is golfing and Hillary is mia.

[Saucexorzski]

Trump is in Louisiana, Obama is golfing and Hillary is mia.

There is nothing a rich man can do to help the folks down there, only FEMA is able to do good!