Georgia Police Taser Man to Death

[Daedius]

"STOP RESISTING!!!"

*Continues to taser him*

"STOP RESISTING!!!!1111!11!"

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Swear to God these dumb fucks don't know what a taser does to someone's muscles...

[Bryntrollian]

and if he kicked a police officer away from the car while laying on his back and the police officer was pushed into traffic and killed thats i guess just bad luck?

if he did not resist they would of stopped

he had the choice he decided to take his own life with his own actions

I'd like to see your reaction as someone tries to choke the life out of you

[Daedius]

Police officers get tased as part of their training

have you been tasered?

What point are you trying to make exactly? My point still stands...

[Deathquoi]

His death wasn't ruled as being due to the drugs, but being shocked repeatedly with the taser while having his chest compressed. This isn't a case where they tased a guy once and he had a severe reaction for some reason, and it really doesn't make any sense when you folks try and portray it that way.

Can you provide ANYTHING that says that the drugs he took weren't a factor?

It really doesn't make sense when you folks try and portray it as a case where an innocent was killed due to malicious intent.

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"STOP RESISTING!!!"

*Continues to taser him*

"STOP RESISTING!!!!1111!11!"

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Swear to God these dumb fucks don't know what a taser does to someone's muscles...

Do tasers make your muscles grab a cop's weapon? Must be an unpublished side effect.

[Endus]

Can you provide ANYTHING that says that the drugs he took weren't a factor?

"The death certificate states the cause of death as a homicide due to "several pulls of an electronic control device" and "compression of the torso by the body weight of another individual.""

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/10/us/geo...ice/index.html

[judgementofantonidas]

He was filmed saying "I'm dead, I'm dead! ... I said, I quit, I quit!" moments before he stopped breathing and died. Body cams of the police officers involved show the encounter in vivid detail.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/21/us/tas...ies/index.html

I really hope the officers involved are prosecuted for first degree murder. Of course they won't be though. Absolutely disgusting.

don't break the law = don't get the cops called on you = don't resist =don't get tased

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The problem here is that cops think that a taser is fine to use in ANY situation where shooting isn't quite applicable. A lot of departmental rules are written exactly like that. The truth is that tasers aren't that trivial to use, can hurt people pretty badly both directly and indirectly. Most of the time, they're stupidly and casually using tasers on people who are standing up, and those people wind up with broken teeth, broken jaws, skull fractures, etc from the fall. The fact of the matter is, tasers need to be only deployed much higher on the continuum of force instead of "anywhere when someone isn't exactly complying with my every order as fast as I want them to", and as much as I feel like using it.

exactly. tasers should only be used when the suspect says no.

[Endus]

don't break the law = don't get the cops called on you = don't resist =don't get tased

"Pick up that can."

[Noradin]

don't break the law = don't get the cops called on you = don't resist =don't get tased

= "if someone is suspected of breaking the law is alright if the police kills them."

[Deathquoi]

"The death certificate states the cause of death as a homicide due to "several pulls of an electronic control device" and "compression of the torso by the body weight of another individual.""

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/10/us/geo...ice/index.html

Where's the part where it says the drugs weren't a factor?

Also, I would definitely like to see an explanation of how all the armchair LEOs would have handled this situation perfectly.

[judgementofantonidas]

= "if someone is suspected of breaking the law is alright if the police kills them."

of course not. it is however never acceptable to resist an officer performing his duty.

[Endus]

Where's the part where it says the drugs weren't a factor?

It also doesn't say unicorn rainbow power wasn't a factor. Should we assume that factored into the man's death, or should we stick to what the death certificate does say led to his death? Which does not include drug use.

Also, I would definitely like to see an explanation of how all the armchair LEOs would have handled this situation perfectly.

The man was already cuffed. As far as I can see, it was already handled. Tasers aren't used to ensure compliance.

[Deathquoi]

It also doesn't say unicorn rainbow power wasn't a factor. Should we assume that factored into the man's death, or should we stick to what the death certificate does say led to his death? Which does not include drug use.



The man was already cuffed. As far as I can see, it was already handled. Tasers aren't used to ensure compliance.

Given that he was still fighting off the officers while cuffed I'm going to disagree. The Unicorn rainbow power line was adorable though. They should have just walked away once he was cuffed and let him run into traffic. Much cleaner.

[Noradin]

of course not. it is however never acceptable to resist an officer performing his duty.

It is not at the officer to define "resistance" nor his "duty", and the officer does not get free reign what tools to use to react to such resistance.

[Santti]

That's quite sad. The police knew he was not himself and might be on some drugs or maybe having a nervous breakdown or something. You can't just yell a person like that into obedience, especially if drugs are involved. They had no idea how to handle a person like that, no idea.

"Pick up that can."

Hehe, thanks for the chuckle.

[alexw]

and if he kicked a police officer away from the car while laying on his back and the police officer was pushed into traffic and killed thats i guess just bad luck?

if he did not resist they would of stopped

he had the choice he decided to take his own life with his own actions

And if he farted which caused a gust of wind which affected the flight-path of a bird so it flew into the path of an oncoming car, which then swerved and hit a tree which toppled onto the cop killing him then its just bad luck?

IMO all cops should shoot to kill on every occasion on the basis of them preventing criminals from farting thus affecting bird flight paths thus causing cars to swerve thus toppling trees and thus killing aforesaid officers.

See? I too can create utterly stupid hyperbolic scenarios.

[Polyxo]

It is not at the officer to define "resistance" nor his "duty", and the officer does not get free reign what tools to use to react to such resistance.

Unfortunately, departmental rules give police way too much leeway in defining when they get to use different force levels. Essentially anything from an attack from an armed assailant, all the way down to someone arguing while following instructions is grounds for using tasers in most departmental rules. These rules are not designed to provide appropriate instructions on how to deal with people or situations, rather, they're a way to protect officers from lawsuits in that police can do virtually whatever they want in any situation, and when facing a lawsuit, can point to departmental rules as them doing what they're 'taught' to do.

municipal and state police really need major federal oversight from some agency that has an interest in prosecuting misconduct, and forcing departments to adopt credible rules.

[judgementofantonidas]

It is not at the officer to define "resistance" nor his "duty", and the officer does not get free reign what tools to use to react to such resistance.

that is rich

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If he would have just let them crush his chest in so he would suffocate to death in the first place, there wouldn't have been a need to taser him to death. Silly criminals (since sick people are considered criminals these days), you're doing to die one way or the other if the delicate flower police officers feels the tiniest bit threaten.

I hope this cops gets the standard 6 month vacation and then receives all that back pay when he goes back to work like nothing happen. Standard procedure alright.

Pro tip: If you have a mentally ill family, DO NOT CALL THE COPS UNLESS YOU WANT THAT PERSON TO DIE.

the officer pictured wrestling him in the car, at least while on film, did not have the majority of thier weight "crushing in his chest".

[Endus]

the officer pictured wrestling him in the car, at least while on film, did not have the majority of thier weight "crushing in his chest".

I think we'll stick with the coroner's analysis over what some guy on the Internet thinks he saw in some footage.

[judgementofantonidas]

Sorry but evidence doesn't back you here. He was handcuffed and had someone sitting on him. If he was struggling with police, it was probably because HE WAS TRYING TO FUCKING BREATHE.

nobody was sitting on his chest in the video provided.

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What? Where is this? Where I'm from you call one number and one number only. If you call the police and tell them know a dude is violent and set a house on fire, too, they'll call the firefighters on site for you too. And if you call an ambulance on a knife stabbing, they will definitely make sure police is there as well. Emergency agencies are connected like that.

have to agree with the one number system. I have responded to a number of incidents where the paramedics were there first.

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Another officer was sitting on him.

an officer was pictured still wrestling with him. at no point in time did the video see anyone even near to compressing his chest to the point he could not breath unless he had some serious breathing problems.

[Wells]

I never cease to be amazed at the excesses some people will defend.