Trump's attack on media as 'enemy of the people' is disgraceful and dangerous

[JohnBrown1917]

Where he is putting limits on freedom of press? I read whole article and all what I can find is some kind of poor writer whining about how some journalists died to deliver news, instead whining about how people are massively feed with FAKE news, and when you point it out to them they will write rectification/correction in smallest font ever on bottom of theirs web page ...

You really can't see how Trumps intent could lead to decreasing the freedom of press?

[Deleted]

"Having the right mindset" is still lying if you claim that millions of people broke the law without any proof whatsoever. I'm sick and tired of people claiming "Trump may technically be wrong but at least he has the right mindset!" That's just called being wrong.

Besides, the snopes post in your second article asserts that the claim that 800,000 illegal immigrants voted for Hillary is false anyway.

Moreover "no one is getting caught, therefore it must be happening!" is an abysmally poor argument. Especially when you try and argue that it's happening at such a grand magnitude. That's like saying that hundreds of thousands of people are going around burying dinosaur bones to try and get people to stop believing in god, and your proof is that no one has been caught because they're so good at covering it up.

I agree with some that you're saying, however I did link the Snopes article for nuance's sake, given I linked two other sources that postulate that it might be true aswell, I don't give either of these 3 sources any authority on truth either, it's up for you to decide what's right or wrong.

As for your 3rd paragraph, I am not sure who you are replying to, I did not make this argument.

[JohnBrown1917]

You don't believe the media has an obligation to be accurate? If they advertise themselves and responsible, impartial and accurate then shouldn't they be? And if so, how do we regulate that?

They should be, but its not the president of any country who decides what is accurate.

[Masoner]

Its fascist dictator talk. Period.

Mao, Stalin, Hitler, the worst of the worst scum of history, all declared x,y,z groups as enemies of the people.

Now we have Trump doing exactly the same. Its not a coincidence. Thank God for the system of checks and balances, even then it might not be enough.

Sir, you have zero ideas what a dictator really is if you think Trump is one.

The fact that all of the MSM is fabricating stories out of NOTHING to smear him is proof what he said was true.

[Vallcorr]

You really can't see how Trumps intent could lead to decreasing the freedom of press?

Stop fear mongering. He is calling the press liars, not trying to implement new laws restricting them.

[Masoner]

They should be, but its not the president of any country who decides what is accurate.

There is no way you can sit there and claim that the media isn't twisting news to fit their narrative.

[fengosa]

The media pushing a Trump-Putin relationship without any hard evidence at all is whats truly disgraceful and dangerous.

The only evidence ever presented was Trumps man crush for Putin which was odd to say the least. There's nothing wrong with the media pointing this out and given that there is evidence the Trump campaign was collaberating with the Russia government in some way it's not disgraceful at all.

[Vallcorr]

The only evidence ever presented was Trumps man crush for Putin which was odd to say the least. There's nothing wrong with the media pointing this out and given that there is evidence the Trump campaign was collaberating with the Russia government in some way it's not disgraceful at all.

Show me the evidence.

[Coffeh]

Well, a horribly biased 'media' more intent on ratings and making news (rather than reporting it) is indeed a threat to the people. Let's face it...the mainstream media brought this upon themselves with such terribly biased reporting.

So is Trumps actions lead to an actual transparent, honest, unbiased media then that'll be fantastic. But that depends on the media outlets actually doing their jobs.

[JohnBrown1917]

There is no way you can sit there and claim that the media isn't twisting news to fit their narrative.

I'm not saying that.

[Masoner]

So Trump's campaign ties with Russia were just him trying to coordinate a large shipment on those little wooden dolls, right?

"Trump has had no ties to Russia. My proof? Donald Trump said so."

If by Trump you mean the FBI and the CIA both have said on SEVERAL occasions there is ZERO evidence of Trump and Russia working together.

Even if you don't like Trump for what ever reason, you should be able to comprehend that fake news is a much more dangerous thing than the man the people voted in as their president.

[fengosa]

Stop fear mongering. He is calling the press liars, not trying to implement new laws restricting them.

He's trying to undermine the media voice so that he becomes unquestioned. Whether or not he passes any laws to do so isn't the problem.

[JohnBrown1917]

Stop fear mongering. He is calling the press liars, not trying to implement new laws restricting them.

Must be fun to be naive.

[Alexeht]

You really can't see how Trumps intent could lead to decreasing the freedom of press?

No I'm not. If only that could lead to press being responsible to deliver true news, and if they report something fake they will have to cry out loud and beg for forgiveness.

[Masoner]

I'm not saying that.

Good, I'd suggest you and people like you to stop spending so much time trying to hate on Trump and start paying attention to the fake news and WHY they are doing it. If the FBI and CIA both say there is zero evidence toward these allegations.. and in our country you are innocent till proven guilty.. WHY is the media playing at it as if it's the biggest thing to happen to our nation since 9/11.

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No I'm not. If only that could lead to press being responsible to deliver true news, and if they report something fake they will have to cry out loud and beg for forgiveness.

When you catch someone doing something wrong, in the case telling a lie. They normally admit to it and not do it again, admit to it and do it again or double down on the lie.

The MSM in most cases is doing number three. They just keep digging their own hole.

[fengosa]

Show me the evidence.

Here's a timeline of many things Trump has said over the past couple years. It's pretty telling that Trump has warmed up to a guy who has been in power close to two decades and seems to be fine with invading neighbouring countries.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...omance-n621131

[Vallcorr]

So if the media isn't telling the truth, the president shouldn't say anything regardless of the democratic party involved? Do all you liberals want to forget obama waged a war against fox news as well?
http://theweek.com/articles/464430/w...sociated-press

[Kaleredar]

If by Trump you mean the FBI and the CIA both have said on SEVERAL occasions there is ZERO evidence of Trump and Russia working together.

Do you have a source on that?

Also, are we going back to trusting the CIA and FBI? I thought the Trumpettes decried them as being untrustworthy when they claimed that Russia was trying to tamper with the election to prop up Trump.

[alexw]

Sir, you have zero ideas what a dictator really is if you think Trump is one.

The fact that all of the MSM is fabricating stories out of NOTHING to smear him is proof what he said was true.

Do you think a dictator brings out the firing squads on day one?

Go look up the history of any of them and you'll find that's not how it happens. It's a gradual process where the boundaries are gradually pushed and ever more extreme changes take place. Right now with his undermining of democratic institutions (attacks on the free press and the court system) he is following the dictator playbook to a tee.

[fengosa]

If by Trump you mean the FBI and the CIA both have said on SEVERAL occasions there is ZERO evidence of Trump and Russia working together.

Even if you don't like Trump for what ever reason, you should be able to comprehend that fake news is a much more dangerous thing than the man the people voted in as their president.

CIA concludes Russia interfered to help Trump win election

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...lection-report