You dont know me. You probably haven't even been to China before. You have no idea what you are talking about. Now try again. Tell me something meaningful pussy boy.
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Good luck. It is estimated that there will be over 2.8 billion Muslims around the world by year 2050 though. Hope they will treat your descendants well.
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you ignored about Mangolia, East Tarkistan, Tibet, islands in sea that belong to Indonesia, and so on
And Taiwan is oppressed, i'm not sure who told u the opposite ? u can easily check that by how they ban anyone who 'dare' to talk about their freedom or how any of those many invaded countries are not chineese
The beginning of wisdom is the statement 'I do not know.' The person who cannot make that statement is one who will never learn anything. And I have prided myself on my ability to learn
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http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power
I'm okay with an extremely intolerant and pretty aggressive religion that seems to breed extremists far more than other religions be surpressed somewhat.
Look at opinions shared by the vast, vast majority of muslims, cheating on your husband? Death, a shocking number of muslims in the western world think this, it's disgraceful.
While i don't support my country doing this, i'm not going to bash other countries who don't want to open the door to this sort of religion.
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Edit: Infracted for religious bashing, what a joke, it's okay for their religion to think death is a suitable punishment for adultery and for 12 year olds to marry, but god forbid i call them out for their sick beliefs.
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Well guess I better cancel my vacation there!
I have a beard and have been told I look Muslim.
So, the whole talk of 'opening the door' or 'letting them in' has popped up a few times in this thread. You guys know this doesn't apply to China, right? It's not like the Uyghurs up and moved into China. China took over the region; they've always been there.
So how are we to interpret this stock phrase in the context of China? Take over a region and then a few decades later kick out the people who already lived there?
Perhaps not quite accurate.Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungar_genocideThe Qing genocide against the Dzungar, made the Qing sponsored settlement of millions of Han Chinese, Hui, Turkestani Oasis people (Uyghurs) and Manchu Bannermen in Dzungaria possible, since the land was now depopulated.[1][35] Professor Stanley W. Toops noted that today's demographic situation is similar to that of the early Qing period in Xinjiang. In northern Xinjiang, the Qing brought in Han, Hui, Uyghur, Xibe, and Kazakh colonists after they exterminated the Dzungar Oirat Mongols in the region, with one third of Xinjiang's total population consisting of Hui and Han in the northern area, while around two thirds were Uyghurs in southern Xinjiang's Tarim Basin.[36][37] In Dzungaria, the Qing established new cities like Ürümqi and Yining.[38] After the Chinese defeated Jahangir Khoja in the 1820s, 12,000 Turki (Uyghur) Taranchi families were deported by China from the Tarim Basin to Dzungaria to colonize and repopulate the area.[39] The Dzungarian basin, which used to be inhabited by Dzungars, is currently inhabited by Kazakhs.[40]
The Qing unified Xinjiang and changed its demographics.[41] The depopulation of northern Xinjiang led to the Qing settling Manchu, Sibo (Xibe), Daurs, Solons, Han Chinese, Hui Muslims, and Turkic Muslim Taranchis in the north, with Han Chinese and Hui migrants making up the greatest number of settlers. Since the crushing of the Buddhist Öölöd (Dzungars) by the Qing led to promotion of Islam and the empowerment of the Muslim Begs in southern Xinjiang, and migration of Muslim Taranchis to northern Xinjiang, it was proposed by Henry Schwarz that "the Qing victory was, in a certain sense, a victory for Islam".[42] Xinjiang, as a unified, defined geographic identity, was created and developed by the Qing. It was the Qing who led to Turkic Muslim power in the region, increasing since the Mongol power was defeated by the Qing, while Turkic Muslim culture and identity was tolerated or even promoted.[43] The Qing gave the name Xinjiang to Dzungaria after conquering it, reshaping it from a steppe grassland into farmland cultivated by Han Chinese farmers, 1 million mu (17,000 acres) were turned from grassland to farmland from 1760-1820 by the new colonies.[44]
While some have tried to misrepresent the Qing actions in light of the contemporary situation in Xinjiang with Han migration, and claims that the Qing settlements and state farms were an anti-Uyghur plot to replace them in their land, Professor James A. Millward pointed out that the Qing agricultural colonies in reality had nothing to do with Uyghur and their land, since the Qing banned settlement of Han in the Uyghur Tarim Basin, and in fact, directed the Han settlers instead to settle in the non-Uyghur Dzungaria and the new city of Ürümqi, so that the state farms which were settled with 155,000 Han Chinese from 1760-1830 were all in Dzungaria and Ürümqi, where there was only an insignificant amount of Uyghurs, instead of the Tarim Basin oases.[45]
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With COVID-19 making its impact on our lives, I have decided that I shall hang in there for my remaining days, skip some meals, try to get children to experiment with making henna patterns on their skin, and plant some trees. You know -- live, fast, dye young, and leave a pretty copse. I feel like I may not have that quite right.
Yes, history is complicated. What you presented doesn't really contradict anything I said, though, unless you're being pedantic about my use of the world 'always.' Clearly they haven't been there forever, but they've been there since before the time frames you listed.
I am, and in the sense that you seem to be trying to use 'always', what I've referred to does contradict it. Like the Uighur, the Chinese have a long history in the region, and the two groups have had ongoing interaction since early times. Saying the Uighur have always been there, while ignoring the role of the Chinese, is a way to stack the deck.Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis
With COVID-19 making its impact on our lives, I have decided that I shall hang in there for my remaining days, skip some meals, try to get children to experiment with making henna patterns on their skin, and plant some trees. You know -- live, fast, dye young, and leave a pretty copse. I feel like I may not have that quite right.
Finally another country willing to fight the evil that is Islam. Why these people think that moving to another country and practice their culture, completely ignoring or flat out insulting the culture of said country is ok, is beyond me.
If you move to any country, then that culture is how you live, period!