1. #12621
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/polit...eet/index.html

    Trump, a guy who has openly bragged about peeping on under-age girls in various states of undress, is now openly supporting people calling Biden a pedo.

    Remember when presidential campaigns didn't involve one party's campaign functionally turning into the cover of the National Enquirer? I mean, if he's going to go down that route at least give us some fuckin updates on Bat-Boy.

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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e.../idUSKBN2662V1

    Ohio Republican Secretary of State Frank LaRose tried to limit secure drop boxes for voters, limiting to just one box per-county which is a bit fucking stupid.

    He lost the Ohio court battle over it, with the judge calling the restriction "arbitrary and unreasonable", saying local officials can install as many as they want.

    Republican LaRose's response seems to be that he disagrees with the courts and won't do anything.

    Republicans continue their best attempts to suppress voting in the election, because the Republican party continues to make it clear that they are not fans of democracy.

  2. #12622
    It looks like Republicans area ashamed of their positions on health care/insurance, because they're lying about them to get re-elected.

    The latest example came Tuesday when Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., who has voted repeatedly to repeal the Obamacare law that established those federal protections, released an emotional ad in which he sits with his mother and discusses her successful battle with cancer.

    "Cory wrote the bill to guarantee coverage to people with pre-existing conditions — forever," she says, looking directly at the camera.

    "No matter what happens to Obamacare," the senator adds.
    Wow, that's awesome! Go Cory, your mom seems like a nice lady!

    Gardner’s 117-word-long legislation would require insurers "not impose any pre-existing condition exclusion" or "factor health status into premiums or charges.” The bill was introduced in August and has never received a hearing or a vote.

    Larry Levitt, the executive vice president for health policy at the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation, said Gardner's bill "contains a giant loophole" because insurance companies can simply "deny coverage altogether to people with pre-existing conditions."
    Oh...so it's a lie on Cory's part and he's trying to weaponize his mothers cancer for political gain? Wow...nevermind, what a piece of fucking shit. Let's look elsewhere -

    "Mark Kelly's attacks on me are false. And they're shameful. Of course I will always protect those with preexisting conditions. Always," she said to the camera.
    Ok, fair enough from Martha McSally, but what's she done in the Senate?

    But as a member of the House in 2017, McSally voted for legislation that would unwind much of the ACA and allow states to apply for an exemption from rules that prohibit insurers from charging people more if they have a pre-existing condition.

    Experts noted at the time that the waivers could pave the way for insurance companies to jack up costs and price sick people out of the market. (It passed the House but died in the Senate.)
    Oh, so that's the bill McCain thankfully killed, but she would have voted for. There's gotta be a few others -

    In an ad released in August, Sen. David Perdue, R-Ga., who is also in a tight battle for re-election, says: "Health insurance should always cover pre-existing conditions. For anyone. Period." The spot includes his sister, a cancer survivor, who says she is defending "my big brother's heart" on the issue.

    In Montana, Sen. Steve Daines, a Republican who is facing a strong Democratic opponent in Gov. Steve Bullock, ran an ad in July featuring a woman who said, "Steve Daines will protect Montanans with pre-existing conditions."
    Good stuff! They've got skin in the game, so surely they aren't lying...

    Perdue and Daines voted to advance the Senate repeal-and-replace measure in 2017. Daines also voted to repeal the ACA without a replacement as a member of the House in 2013.
    God-damnit, nevermind, they don't give a shit about their families either, apparently.

    I'll leave with this gem -

    Miller, of AEI, thinks Republicans are doing what in military terms is known as "advance to the rear," suggesting they are retreating while claiming otherwise.

    "A lot has changed since the rhetorical barking in opposition [to Obamacare] from 2009 to 2016, and even in the ambitions of what they'd do legislatively since 2017," Miller said.
    "Advance to the rear"...man, Republicans are the wrong party for that. Or maybe the right party given all the Grindr activity that appears to pop up during a Republican convention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Did Biden / Democrats actually explain what plans they already have in regards of police reform / BLM / defunding the police -if- they'd win the elections?
    I'm sure you could like, do a simple web search to find out, but I'm happy to help out -

    Democrats in the House already passed a bill, led by the Congressional Black Caucus back in June - https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...ouse-bill/7120

    Here's some information on Biden's positions and policies relating to police reform, racial justice, and law enforcement - https://joebiden.com/justice/#

  3. #12623
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Here's some information on Biden's positions and policies relating to police reform, racial justice, and law enforcement - https://joebiden.com/justice/#
    OMG how did you find that Google is HARD! Why would anyone go to a campaign website to read about a candidate's policies?! Reeeee!

    But in all seriousness I was reading through a lot of the different policies there the other day (because even though they matter less now they'll matter a LOT if the US does the right thing and elects Biden in November) and there's just so much GOOD in them. And not just stuff that's particularly hard or expensive to implement. In this one, for example, there's:

    Decriminalize the use of cannabis and automatically expunge all prior cannabis use convictions. Biden believes no one should be in jail because of cannabis use. As president, he will decriminalize cannabis use and automatically expunge prior convictions. And, he will support the legalization of cannabis for medical purposes, leave decisions regarding legalization for recreational use up to the states, and reschedule cannabis as a schedule II drug so researchers can study its positive and negative impacts.

    End all incarceration for drug use alone and instead divert individuals to drug courts and treatment. Biden believes that no one should be imprisoned for the use of illegal drugs alone. Instead, Biden will require federal courts to divert these individuals to drug courts so they receive treatment to address their substance use disorder. He’ll incentivize states to put the same requirements in place. And, he’ll expand funding for federal, state, and local drug courts.
    Both of those are fucking huge and would benefit SO many people (except for those profiteering off prisons, of course) it's really nuts how we still haven't been able to get those done.

  4. #12624
    Quote Originally Posted by Thelxi View Post
    He is setting the stage for widespread chaos and anger at the election system itself. One likely scenario is that he prematurely claims victory before all mailed votes are counted, and then starts sowing as much doubt as possible about the validity of the remaining votes which would likely pull Biden ahead.

    If the margins are wide and it is clear that Biden is the legitimate winner despite Trump's machinations, republican politicians will finally jump ship to save their own skin and start distancing themselves from Trump.

    If the margins are close, things will get serious very fast. Republicans will not jump ship and instead a partisan war will erupt that could escalate in many ways. It's one thing to have people like me saying that democracy itself is being chipped at, it's another to actually see it fail. Social unrest will certainly rise.

    If Trump loses the the popular vote, but wins the EC things might escalate as well for similar reasons, but probably not as much.

    If Trump wins both in an unexpected red wave, then the people will have spoken and god help us. Get ready for a third term Trump and a president Ivanka.
    If trump loses the GOP is going to dig the biggest memory hole you can't remember being dug and he will be dropped into it and they will pretend that obama had 12 years of presidency and that the GOP never had control over anything.

  5. #12625
    Quote Originally Posted by kaid View Post
    If trump loses the GOP is going to dig the biggest memory hole you can't remember being dug and he will be dropped into it and they will pretend that obama had 12 years of presidency and that the GOP never had control over anything.
    Yeah it will quite something to watch the tables turn. I wonder how the democrats will handle the worst and most prominent actors of this saga too, like Barr, Nunes, Jordan etc. Some of them are already linked to potential crimes. I can't wait to see for the worst clowns in the trump circus to be made an example out of. I'm guessing they will actually want to leave Trump and his family alone though, as a gesture of unity, but people might rise up and demand more than that. The law and lawmakers will suddenly have access to a whole lot more information too, so who knows what kind of shocking shit will come out.

    I really don't know how the GOP will revive itself though. The moment democrats have power again, guardrails will be installed and the GOP advantage will shrink considerably; it will be much harder to cling to power with minority support. Maybe Romney has been playing a long game? I just hope Nikki Haley and her fellow high-wire artists will crash and burn with the rest of the clowns.

    But lets get there first lol. This will be a rough ride.

  6. #12626
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Ronna McDaniel is already blaming Biden for his handling of Covid... Soooooo, yeah.
    Why wasn't Biden in the Oval Office on 9/11?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Did Biden / Democrats actually explain what plans they already have in regards of police reform / BLM / defunding the police -if- they'd win the elections?
    Yes, I have linked it numerous times... no one wants to discuss it... including you...

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...n-war-on-drugs

    Is this the time? Or are you returning in a week to ask again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Selective amnesia is fun.
    I call them out... bold and extra sized font... literally, every single person that complains that policy isn’t being discussed, without actually discussing policy, has 0 interest in actual policy discussion. The only intent is to pretend everyone is as ignorant as they are and won’t use this thing... this tool that few know about... I believe it’s called... Bing! I got it!... not... what was it... Yahoo!!! I remember... no, that’s not it... is it google? I think it’s google...
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  9. #12629
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Selective amnesia is fun.
    Given how well it worked with them for bush why not do it again. Back them when they win pretend they were coffee boys when they lose.

  10. #12630
    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    IIRC Hillary out spent Trump 2:1 in 2016. Which goes to show you that money can't buy you love.

    Anyway, I understand that huge quantities of dark money is pouring into the Democrats this election. I guess dark money isn't so bad after all. Funny how that works.
    And Trump has spent a billion dollars this time, and has nothing to show for it. He is down 10 points right now.

  11. #12631
    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    IIRC Hillary out spent Trump 2:1 in 2016. Which goes to show you that money can't buy you love.

    Anyway, I understand that huge quantities of dark money is pouring into the Democrats this election. I guess dark money isn't so bad after all. Funny how that works.
    Gotta play the game if there's a game to be played. Democrats already tried passing campaign finance reform, it was literally the first bill for the House in 2017.

    If you got issues with dark money, take it up with McConnell who has made it clear that he won't even consider the topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    IIRC Hillary out spent Trump 2:1 in 2016. Which goes to show you that money can't buy you love.

    Anyway, I understand that huge quantities of dark money is pouring into the Democrats this election. I guess dark money isn't so bad after all. Funny how that works.
    Trump has been campaigning for the last 4 years... Its why he can’t run on his record... he was too busy campaigning
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  13. #12633
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Did Biden / Democrats actually explain what plans they already have in regards of police reform / BLM / defunding the police -if- they'd win the elections?
    Many times, and it's reasonably leftish. Please completely hold your fire until after Biden is in office.

    1) It will be really really bad if on January 25th, say, Biden is not the President.
    2) Biden has moved reasonably far to the left. And Pelosi has relentlessly championed more money for unemployed, working class, and middle class Americans, and has done a good job of it as well.

    Democrats have done a decent job recently. Biden has done a decent job. Work now to maximize their power in 2021. The alternative is just plain bad.

  14. #12634
    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Lol at the Trump shills ignoring the vast Dark Money advantage that Trump had in 2016.

    The NRA is was one of the largest launderers of Dark Money. They spent over $400 million in 2016.

    Where is the NRA today, by comparison?

    Sitting next to Jerry Falwell Jr watching someone else bang their sweetheart.
    The NRA got a lot of money from the Russians to push ads for Trump. That isn't hyperbole, that is just fact. They got over $30 million from Russians.

    I read an article the other day, that showed that the NRA is only capable of doing 1/6th of what they did in 2016 because of their financial issues and threats of being shut down.

    https://www.axios.com/nra-spending-e...0b812dfed.html

  15. #12635
    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    And Trump has spent a billion dollars this time, and has nothing to show for it. He is down 10 points right now.
    Is he? How are the most recent polls showing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Gotta play the game if there's a game to be played. Democrats already tried passing campaign finance reform, it was literally the first bill for the House in 2017.

    If you got issues with dark money, take it up with McConnell who has made it clear that he won't even consider the topic.
    If the issue is dark money, why doesn’t Trump tell us who these rich people that give him money, but prefer to remain hidden, that he mentioned during Hillary debates... how about Trump name them... does at least one start with Prince and another rhyme with Putting on the ritz?
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  17. #12637
    Poor trump bankrupting his campaign and not having russia funnel him money through the NRA. Damn Biden for shattering donation records by getting hundreds of millions in small dollar donations.

  18. #12638
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Did Biden / Democrats actually explain what plans they already have in regards of police reform / BLM / defunding the police -if- they'd win the elections?
    It is on his platform. So, stop asking questions that you should know the answer to.

  19. #12639
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...49c_story.html

    One tweet claimed coronavirus numbers were intentionally inflated, adding, “It’s hard to know what to believe.” Another warned, “Don’t trust Dr. Fauci.”

    A Facebook comment argued that mail-in ballots “will lead to fraud for this election,” while an Instagram comment amplified the erroneous claim that 28 million ballots went missing in the past four elections.

    The messages have been emanating in recent months from the accounts of young people in Arizona seemingly expressing their own views — standing up for President Trump in a battleground state and echoing talking points from his reelection campaign.

    Far from representing a genuine social media groundswell, however, the posts are the product of a sprawling yet secretive campaign that experts say evades the guardrails put in place by social media companies to limit online disinformation of the sort used by Russia during the 2016 campaign.

    Teenagers, some of them minors, are being paid to pump out the messages at the direction of Turning Point Action, an affiliate of Turning Point USA, the prominent conservative youth organization based in Phoenix, according to four people with independent knowledge of the effort. Their descriptions were confirmed by detailed notes from relatives of one of the teenagers who recorded conversations with him about the efforts.

    The campaign draws on the spam-like behavior of bots and trolls, with the same or similar language posted repeatedly across social media. But it is carried out, at least in part, by humans paid to use their own accounts, though nowhere disclosing their relationship with Turning Point Action or the digital firm brought in to oversee the day-to-day activity. One user included a link to Turning Point USA’s website in his Twitter profile until The Washington Post began asking questions about the activity.

    In response to questions from The Post, Twitter on Tuesday suspended at least 20 accounts involved in the activity for “platform manipulation and spam.” Facebook also removed a number of accounts as part of what the company said is an ongoing investigation.

    The effort generated thousands of posts this summer on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram, according to an examination by The Post and an assessment by an independent specialist in data science. Nearly 4,500 tweets containing identical content that were identified in the analysis probably represent a fraction of the overall output.

    The months-long effort by the tax-exempt nonprofit is among the most ambitious domestic influence campaigns uncovered this election cycle, said experts tracking the evolution of deceptive online tactics.

    “In 2016, there were Macedonian teenagers interfering in the election by running a troll farm and writing salacious articles for money,” said Graham Brookie, director of the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab. “In this election, the troll farm is in Phoenix.”

    The effort, Brookie added, illustrates “that the scale and scope of domestic disinformation is far greater than anything a foreign adversary could do to us.”

    Turning Point Action, whose 26-year-old leader, Charlie Kirk, delivered the opening speech at this year’s Republican National Convention, issued a statement from the group’s field director defending the social media campaign and saying any comparison to a troll farm was a “gross mischaracterization.”

    “This is sincere political activism conducted by real people who passionately hold the beliefs they describe online, not an anonymous troll farm in Russia,” the field director, Austin Smith, said in the statement.

    He said the operation reflected an attempt by Turning Point Action to maintain its advocacy despite the challenges presented by the coronavirus pandemic, which has curtailed many traditional political events.

    “Like everyone else, Turning Point Action’s plans for nationwide in-person events and activities were completely disrupted by the pandemic,” Smith said. “Many positions TPA had planned for in field work were going to be completely cut, but TPA managed to reimagine these roles and working with our marketing partners, transitioned some to a virtual and online activist model.”

    The group declined to make Kirk available for an interview.

    The online salvo targeted prominent Democratic politicians and news organizations on social media. It mainly took the form of replies to their posts, part of a bid to reorient political conversation.

    The messages — some of them false and some simply partisan — were parceled out in precise increments as directed by the effort’s leaders, according to the people with knowledge of the highly coordinated activity, most of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect the privacy of minors carrying out the work.

    One parent of two teenagers involved in the effort, Robert Jason Noonan, said his 16- and 17-year-old daughters were being paid by Turning Point to push “conservative points of view and values” on social media. He said they have been working with the group since about June, adding in an interview, “The job is theirs until they want to quit or until the election.”

    Four years ago, the Kremlin-backed Internet Research Agency amplified Turning Point’s right-wing memes as part of Moscow’s sweeping interference aimed at boosting Trump, according to expert assessments prepared for the Senate Intelligence Committee. One report pointed specifically to the use of Turning Point content as evidence of Russia’s “deep knowledge of American culture, media, and influencers.”

    Now, some technology industry experts contend that the effort this year by Turning Point shows how domestic groups are not just producing eye-catching online material, but also increasingly using social media to spread it in disruptive or misleading ways.

    “It sounds like the Russians, but instead coming from Americans,” said Jacob Ratkiewicz, a software engineer at Google whose academic research, as a PhD student at Indiana University at Bloomington, addressed the political abuse of social media.

    To some participants, the undertaking feels very different. Notes from the recorded conversation with a 16-year-old participant — the authenticity of which was confirmed by The Post — indicate, “He said it’s really fun and he works with his friends.” The participant, through family members, declined to comment.

    The users active in the campaign, some of whom were using their real names, identified themselves only as Trump supporters and young Republicans. One simply described herself as a high school sophomore interested in softball and cheerleading.

    Noonan, 46, said “some of the comments may go too far” but cast the activity as a response to similar exaggerations by Democrats. “Liberals say things that are way out there, and conservatives say things that are sometimes way out there, or don’t have enough evidence.”

    Those recruited to participate in the campaign were lifting the language from a shared online document, according to Noonan and other people familiar with the setup. They posted the same lines a limited number of times to avoid automated detection by the technology companies, these people said. They also were instructed to edit the beginning and ending of each snippet to differentiate the posts slightly, according to the notes from the recorded conversation with a participant.

    Noonan said his daughters sometimes work from an office in the Phoenix area and are classified as independent contractors, not earning “horrible money” but also not making minimum wage. Relatives of another person involved said the minor is paid an hourly rate and can score bonuses if his posts spur higher engagement.

    Smith, as part of written responses to The Post, deferred specific questions about the financial setup to a “marketing partner” called Rally Forge, which he said was running the program for Turning Point.

    Jake Hoffman, president and chief executive of the Phoenix-based digital marketing firm, confirmed the online workers were classified as contractors but declined to comment further on “private employment matters.” He did not respond to a question about the office setup.

    Addressing the use of centralized documents to prepare the messages, Hoffman said in written responses, “Every working team within my agency works out of dozens of collaborative documents every day, as is common with all dynamic marketing agencies or campaign phone banks for example.”

    The messages have appeared mainly as replies to news articles about politics and public health posted on social media. They seek to cast doubt on the integrity of the electoral process, asserting that Democrats are using mail balloting to steal the election — “thwarting the will of the American people,” they alleged.

    The posts also play down the threat from covid-19, which claimed the life of Turning Point’s co-founder Bill Montgomery in July. One post, which was spread across social media dozens of times, suggested baselessly that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is inflating the death toll from the disease. (Most experts say deaths are probably undercounted.) Another pushed for schools to reopen, reasoning, “President Trump is not worried because younger people do very well while dealing with covid.”

    Much of the blitz was aimed squarely at Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee. The former vice president, asserted one message, “is being controlled by behind the scenes individuals who want to take America down the dangerous path towards socialism.”

    By seeking to rebut mainstream news articles, the operation illustrates the extent to which some online political activism is designed to discredit the media.

    While Facebook and Twitter have pledged to crack down on what they have labeled coordinated inauthentic behavior, in Facebook’s case, and platform manipulation and spam, as Twitter defines its rules, their efforts falter in the face of organizations willing to pay users to post on their own accounts, maintaining the appearance of independence and authenticity.

    In removing accounts Tuesday, Twitter pointed to policies specifying, “You can’t artificially amplify or disrupt conversations through the use of multiple accounts.” That includes “coordinating with or compensating others to engage in artificial engagement or amplification, even if the people involved use only one account,” according to Twitter.

    On Twitter, the nearly verbatim language emanated from about two dozen accounts through the summer. The exact number of people posting the messages was not clear. Smith, the Turning Point field director, said, “The number fluctuates and many have gone back to school.” Hoffman, in an email, said, “Dozens of young people have been excited to share their beliefs on social media.”

    The Rally Forge leader is a city council member in Queen Creek, Ariz., and a candidate for the state legislature.

    Some of the users at points listed their location as Gilbert, Ariz., a suburb of Phoenix, according to screen shots reviewed by The Post. Some followed each other on Twitter, while most were following only a list of prominent politicians and media outlets.

    One was followed by a former member of Congress, Republican Tim Huelskamp of Kansas, who is on the Catholics for Trump advisory board. Huelskamp said he could not recall what led him to follow the account and was not familiar with the effort by Turning Point. But he praised the group for “doing a great job of messaging, particularly with younger folks.”

    Several teenagers were using their real names or variations of their names, while other accounts active in posting the pro-Trump messaging appeared to be operating under pseudonyms. The Post’s review found that some participants seem to maintain multiple accounts on Facebook, which is a violation of the company’s policies.

    Explaining why the users do not disclose that they are being paid as political activists, Hoffman said they are “using their own personal profiles and sharing their content that reflects their values and beliefs.” He pointed to the risk of online bullying, as well as physical harm, in explaining why “we’ve left how much personal and professional information they wish to share up to them.”

    The accounts on Twitter alone posted 4,401 tweets with identical content, not including slight variations of the language, according to Pik-Mai Hui, a PhD student in informatics at Indiana University at Bloomington who performed an analysis of the content at the request of The Post. The analysis found characteristics strongly suggestive of bots — such as double commas and dangling commas that often appear with automatic scripts — though at least some of the accounts were being operated by humans.

    While the messaging appears designed to seed pro-Trump content across social media, said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a professor of communication at the University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg School for Communication, the act of repeated posting also helps instill the ideas among those performing the activity. In addition, it familiarizes the users with the ways of online combat, she said, and makes their accounts valuable assets should different needs arise as the election nears.

    “There is a logic to having an army locally situated in a battleground state, having them up and online and ready to be deployed,” Jamieson said.

    Turning Point Action debuted as a 501(c)(4) organization last year, with more leeway in undertaking political advocacy than is afforded to the original group, which is barred from campaign activity as a 501(c)(3). Both nonprofits are required only to disclose the salaries of directors, officers and key employees, said Marc Owens, a tax attorney with Loeb & Loeb.

    Turning Point dates to 2012, when Montgomery, retired from a career in marketing, heard Kirk, then 18, deliver a speech in the Chicago suburbs at Benedictine University’s “Youth Government Day.” He called the address “practically Reaganesque,” according to a 2015 profile in Crain’s Chicago Business newspaper, and urged Kirk, a former Eagle Scout, to put off college in favor of full-time political activism. Kirk became the face of Turning Point, while Montgomery was “the old guy who keeps it all legal,” he told the business weekly.

    The organization amassed prominent and wealthy conservative allies, including Richard Grenell, the former ambassador to Germany and acting director of national intelligence, and Foster Friess, who made a fortune in mutual funds and helps bankroll conservative and Christian causes. Both men sit on Turning Point’s honorary board.

    Its standing rose significantly as Trump came to power. Turning Point USA brought in nearly $80,000 in contributions and other funds in the fiscal year ending June 2013, according to IRS filings, a fraction of the $8 million it reported for 2017 and $11 million for 2018.

    The group, which describes itself as the “largest and fastest-growing youth organization in America,” claims to have a presence on more than 2,000 college and high school campuses. It hosts activist conferences and runs an alumni program. It also maintains a “Professor Watchlist” designed to expose instructors who “discriminate against conservative students, promote anti-American values and advance leftist propaganda in the classroom.”

    Kirk, the group’s president and co-founder, has been embraced and promoted by Trump and his family. Speaking at Turning Point USA’s Teen Student Action Summit last year, Trump hailed Kirk for building a “movement unlike anything in the history of our nation.” A quote attributed to Donald Trump Jr., who has appeared at numerous Turning Point events, features prominently on the group’s website: “I’m convinced that the work by Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk will win back the future of America.”

    Kirk has returned the praise. In his speech at last month’s Republican nominating convention, he extolled Trump as the “bodyguard of Western civilization.”

    Equally impassioned rhetoric marked the campaign on social media, with posts asserting that Black Lives Matter protesters were “fascist groups . . . terrorizing American citizens” and decrying the “BLM Marxist agenda,” among other incendiary language.

    Noonan said his wife, a hairstylist, monitors the online activity of their daughters more closely than he does, and that their work is often a topic of conversation when the family convenes in the evening.

    “We are Trump supporters, but one of the things my wife and I have been very consistent on is to always understand both sides and make decisions from there,” the father said.
    Huh, so Charlie "Smallface" Kirk's Turning Point USA is turning into the Russian IRA, hiring teens and minors to shitpost and troll on the internet domestically for political purposes.

    What the fucking fuck is wrong with these people.

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    Is there a way to have mods add these two links to OP?

    Joe Biden’s criminal justice reform plan, explained
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...n-war-on-drugs

    Joe Biden’s surprisingly visionary housing plan, explained
    https://www.vox.com/2020/7/9/2131691...plan-section-8

    It gets asked every other page, sometimes by the same people. Might help if we can point them to OP?
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