Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Drutt]

Biden should answer that the Garland and now Barrett were an attempt to pack the court.

The court is already packed, yes, something that those attacking Biden are apparently "forgetting" to mention.

Having said that, there's no upside for Biden in talking much on this point. Deflect and move on is by far the best strategy.

[Omega10]

The court is already packed, yes, something that those attacking Biden are apparently "forgetting" to mention.

Having said that, there's no upside for Biden in talking much on this point. Deflect and move on is by far the best strategy.

Harris could easily have been a lot more aggressive versus Pence in the debate. And from what I've seen she knows how to do it if she so desired.

Biden and Harris are playing it a bit safe. Considering their lead, that is understandable.

On the other hand, trying to predict what they will do in 2021 is not really possible at this time. There is way too much uncertainty. For example, for this particular issue, if republicans keep the Senate, well the republican advantages in the courts will stay intact. There will be nothing they can do about it until possibly 2022 if THAT Senate election goes well.

With political discourse being what it is, and with less than a month to go before the elections, this is not the time to make bold new announcements. They won't help, might hurt, and people just aren't interested. Well the people that want to use them in negative attack ads would be interested.

I am really hoping for President Harris. I became a fan of hers during her debate

[josykay]

The court is already packed, yes, something that those attacking Biden are apparently "forgetting" to mention.

Having said that, there's no upside for Biden in talking much on this point. Deflect and move on is by far the best strategy.

They are deranged. They see Roberts and Corsuch as traitors, so, in their opinion the court is not packed by republicans. But 5:3 of Liberals and Traitors. Trump probably believes, that most likely Roberts will vote against him, should the election result land in the supreme court, and Corsuch could block attempts to overturn civil rights and Roe vs Wade, as he has already done with discrimination laws with concerns to LGBT people.

[Thepersona]

Question: has Dotard Hitlerine posted anything on twitter today? I dont wanna go there, tbh.

[DingDongKing]

Question: has Dotard Hitlerine posted anything on twitter today? I dont wanna go there, tbh.

Cute. He think Pelosi is referring to Biden when discussing 25A.

[Dontrike]

Question: has Dotard Hitlerine posted anything on twitter today? I dont wanna go there, tbh.

Something about Pelosi getting ready to use the 25th on Biden and that Covid relief is on the way, this of course after he cancelled talks and fucked the stock market for a moment.

[Thepersona]

Cute. He think Pelosi is referring to Biden when discussing 25A.

Oh... Neat. So only 12 hours of twitter silence, followed by the typical diarrhea of words.

[josykay]

Something about Pelosi getting ready to use the 25th on Biden and that Covid relief is on the way, this of course after he cancelled talks and fucked the stock market for a moment.

He also talked about Hillary Clinton. AGAIN! And the Gov. of Virginia taking away your guns, and "executing babies".

[Milchshake]

It's like Pelosi knows how to roll Trump.
Yet it makes pundits on twitter mad

[Doctor Amadeus]

Honestly at this point there doesn't need to be anymore debates.

[shimerra]

And I think I will trust the opinion of a Lincoln historian over some politically motivated candidate. Good to see someone fact check her.

You'd trust the word of whatever right wing hack suits your needs over your own mother if she accused trump of sexually assaulting her. Even if you personally witnessed Trump do it. So your comment means less than nothing.

To be clear not saying the historian is a hack. Just ghostpanther and just about every person he sources or thinks is a good person/source of political commentary.

[Kaleredar]

Honestly at this point there doesn't need to be anymore debates.

I’m pretty sure the only reason that Biden and Harris want more debates is because they want Trump and pence digging their own graves deeper and deeper.

[Omega10]

Honestly at this point there doesn't need to be anymore debates.

I agree 100% with this.

And I'll add some good news.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/this-...160610735.html

Title: This week in Trumponomics: Wall Street embraces Biden

Excerpts:

President Trump loves to brag when the stock market goes up, as if gains are a reflection of his personal awesomeness. But the market is now signaling something ominous for Trump: a surprisingly high level of comfort with Joe Biden, if he beats Trump in the 2020 presidential race.

Wall Street weathervane Goldman Sachs issued a report this week declaring that a Biden win and a Democratic sweep in November could be good for the economy, and bullish for stocks. The reasoning is straightforward. If Democrats win the White House and Senate and keep the House, the odds of a massive stimulus bill in early 2021 are considerably higher than if Republicans are able to stand in the way. A stimulus bill could be as large as the $3.4 trillion package the House passed in May, which is at least three times more spending that Republicans seem willing to accept.

Goldman’s tacit endorsement of Biden comes after forecasting firms such as Oxford Economics, Moody’s Analytics and the Penn-Wharton Budget Model analyzed Biden’s overall economic plan and generally found that it would be better for the economy than the status quo. Biden is calling for as much as $7 trillion in new spending over the next decade, with about $4 trillion in new taxes to help pay for it. His top priorities are more money for education, health care, affordable housing, child and elder care, and infrastructure. His tax hikes would mostly hit high earners, wealthy investors and businesses.

I've noticed quite a few pro-Biden/Harris business articles over the past week. And they are getting more and more direct. The business community seems to be resigned to the idea of Trump's tax cuts for people making over 400k a year being repealed to pay for it.

Wall Street's support for Biden/Harris won't come without a price, of course. But they have made it quite clear that expensive and generous stimulus packages geared towards the middle class and those making less are acceptable to them.

Wall Street is almost writing the first Biden/Harris bill, and it's one that seems like it would get America rolling again. A good start to a Biden/Harris administration would be good for America, and good for Biden/Harris. I know I am being overly optimistic about the possibility about something good maybe possibly happening in 2021, but I am going to enjoy the kind of good news while it lasts

[Rasulis]

I agree 100% with this.

And I'll add some good news.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/this-...160610735.html

Title: This week in Trumponomics: Wall Street embraces Biden

Excerpts:



I've noticed quite a few pro-Biden/Harris business articles over the past week. And they are getting more and more direct. The business community seems to be resigned to the idea of Trump's tax cuts for people making over 400k a year being repealed to pay for it.

Wall Street's support for Biden/Harris won't come without a price, of course. But they have made it quite clear that expensive and generous stimulus packages geared towards the middle class and those making less are acceptable to them.

Wall Street is almost writing the first Biden/Harris bill, and it's one that seems like it would get America rolling again. A good start to a Biden/Harris administration would be good for America, and good for Biden/Harris. I know I am being overly optimistic about the possibility about something good maybe possibly happening in 2021, but I am going to enjoy the kind of good news while it lasts

Wall Street is tired of the roller coaster ride. They already made plenty of money during Trump admin. Hell, Apple gained 281% since Trump's inauguration. Just short of quadrupling its market cap in less than 4 years.

I do find it interesting that he likes to brag about the market and 401k performances when both are completely driven by blue states companies.

[Edge-]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...las-vegas.html

Donald J. Trump needed money.

His “self-funded” presidential campaign was short on funds, and he was struggling to win over leery Republican donors. His golf courses and the hotel he would soon open in the Old Post Office in Washington were eating away at what cash he had left on hand, his tax records show.

And in early 2016, Deutsche Bank, the last big lender still doing business with him, unexpectedly turned down his request for a loan. The funds, Mr. Trump had told his bankers, would help shore up his Turnberry golf resort in Scotland. Some bankers feared the money would instead be diverted to his campaign.

That January, Mr. Trump sold a lot of stock — $11.1 million worth. He sold another $11.8 million worth in February, and $7.5 million in March. In April, he sold $8.1 million more.

And the president’s long-hidden tax records, obtained by The New York Times, also reveal this: how he engineered a sudden financial windfall — more than $21 million in what experts describe as highly unusual one-off payments from the Las Vegas hotel he owns with his friend the casino mogul Phil Ruffin.

Eyyy, potential tax AND campaign finance fraud/violations for Trump in 2016!

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https://www.ksn.com/news/health/coro...fox-news-says/

Uh...so Trump's gonna get medically evaluated on live TV?

Can we end this stupid fucking reality show already? I can't seem to figure out how to change the channel.

[Bodakane]

So don’t do the right thing if there are consequences. Got it.

That's not what I said. The right thing in this situation is symbolic. It means nothing. Saying Trump isn't cleared will not alter Trump's actions at all. In fact, all it will do is bring the wrath of Trump, Conley's actual COMMANDER IN CHIEF, down on him. i mean do you honestly think this doctor just doesn;t give a shit and just decided to clear Trump on a whim?

If a doctor clears someone who shouldn’t be cleared they face very real career issues as well. Even if that person is their superior officer.

Is that true? I'm not arguing with you or challenging you, but it doesn't seem like the military works that way...especially with the literal supreme commander.

Of course not. And I find that irrelevant. Just because Trump was going to risk people's lives anyway, doesn't give the doctor the right to help. His okay has the appearance of authority. You're flat-out saying it's not his authority, and Trump is clearing himself by pretending the doctor did it. I call bullshit.

I'll completely cede the doctor can't stop him. That's not my point, just so we're clear. If my boss said "we're going to start teaching that two plus two equals five, do it or you're fired" it's true I couldn't stop him. I would probably hold a press conference "hey my boss is trying to teach that two plus two equals five" on the way out the door with my cardboard box.

And for the record, it's not symbolic. This disease kills people, and Trump is taking it on the road.

Oh, and just so we're clear: if Trump really is negative and really not contagious, in other words if the doctor is telling the truth, I don't have any problems with that.

Why would you call bullshit on that though?

And Trump isn't his boss like at a business. This is the military, it is a vastly different situation. An enlisted person does not have the freedom you or I would in our places of business.

I say its symbolic because as you agree, it doesn't matter what the doctor says, Trump will campaign anyway. Trump is going to risk just as many lives whether the doctor cleared him or not. Seriously, if the doctor didn't clear him who is he protecting if Trump just does whatever the fuck he wants anyway?

[Breccia]

Why would you call bullshit on that though?

Why would I call bullshit, on Trump ordering the doctor to lie about his health, then say he's healthy because of the doctor?

...why wouldn't you?

[Bodakane]

Why would I call bullshit, on Trump ordering the doctor to lie about his health, then say he's healthy because of the doctor?

...why wouldn't you?

Really? I mean which part is crazy to you?

- Trump ordering someone to do something shady?
- Trump ordering someone to do something shady to help his campaign?
- Overweight and McDonalds & KFC snorting Trump isn;t concerned about his health?

[Breccia]

Really? I mean which part is crazy to you?

- Trump ordering someone to do something shady?
- Trump ordering someone to do something shady to help his campaign?
- Overweight and McDonalds & KFC snorting Trump isn;t concerned about his health?

Oh, I see. No, I'm calling all of that bullshit, as in, Trump is a big pile of bullshit for doing this. Not that it's a lie. Sorry for the miscommunication.

[Bodakane]

Oh, I see. No, I'm calling all of that bullshit, as in, Trump is a big pile of bullshit for doing this. Not that it's a lie. Sorry for the miscommunication.

Hahahaha Oh ok, I thought I was crazy for a minute. lol. :fist bump: