Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Muzjhath]

Also wouldn't be too hard to regulate the sales of bullets and materials as well.
Eventually even if you had the guns they would be all but useless.

In Sweden the sale of ammunition is regulated, and only allowed to people licensed for a firearm of the calliber of the ammunition in particular. (Shotgun pellets aren't included in this regulation, I assume the shells themselves are).

[Muzjhath]

Considering pellets are essentially ball bearings until packed inside a shell backed by an explosive charge I can see why you’d leave em legal.

That is my assumption as well

[PosPosPos]

If we're gonna be fair on that subject, the US has tried nothing and they're all out of ideas.

It's a lot worse than just that, yeah?

Gun regulations isn't even unexplored territory, the American excuse is that they haven't tried any of the extremely successful precedents in the developed world, and they are convinced they all won't work.

And they use this same excuse for literally any possible socio-economic reform.

[Cthulhu 2020]

You don't even need to.

Let's say they hypothetically repeal the 2nd Amendment and blanket ban all guns. It'll never happen, I'm just trying to make a simple baseline without loopholes to exploit.

You provide an amnesty period for people to turn in those weapons. Maybe you do like the UK did with the end of slavery and actually buy those guns back, to add some incentives.

Once the amnesty period is over (give it like 6 months), the ban is in place. Sure, there's probably still tens of millions of guns out there. That's fine. If anyone's found to have an illegal gun, that's a mandatory 5 year sentence, served sequentially with whatever other charges may be appropriate (so it extends the sentence by that long). If you actually use that weapon to commit a crime, it's a mandatory 10 year sentence, served sequentially alongside charges for the actual crime. You shoot someone, and get 25 years for murder? That's 35 years combined.

Laws aren't really about crime prevention. They're about punishing criminal actions. You hope that threat of punishment will reduce the incidence of said crimes, but you never expect it to eliminate the crime.

Just need a system that strongly penalizes illegal ownership. If people choose to retain ownership illegally, they'll get punished appropriately as they get caught. That's all any law seeks to do.

This is often pointed out when the gun nutters are backed into a corner and it's proven to them beyond all reason that gun control and even bans work. They'll just go "WELL IT WON'T GET RID OF ALL GUN VIOLENCE, THERE'S TOO MANY!" The point isn't elimination, it's reduction and deterence. All of our laws are broken by people all the time, but those actions clearly happen a lot less than they would if it wasn't illegal.

[DarkTZeratul]

If we're gonna be fair on that subject, the US has tried nothing and they're all out of ideas.

Every time there's a new mass shooting, the same song-and-dance goes on that "something should be done", and nothing ever gets done. Not even "tried and failed to achieve results", literally no changes are made at the federal level, not meaningful ones.

And when changes are made at a state level, the NRA fights like hell to get them overturned.

[Zan15]

So what's fox news going to run now that biden had his press conference and seems to be doing quite well.

just like the debates. i guess they will just move on to the next story?

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WATCH: President Biden takes questions in first formal news conference after unprecedented delay

lol fox. Not a single word about the 300+ days after trumps first press conference...or the year+ with no WH press conference.....

[Captain N]

So Biden has his press conference and the only thing the Cult can flail about with is his long pauses and his stutter? Seems like Joe is doing pretty good if all you can attack is his long standing speech impediment.

[Zan15]

So Biden has his press conference and the only thing the Cult can flail about with is his long pauses and his stutter? Seems like Joe is doing pretty good if all you can attack is his long standing speech impediment.

its much harder to do a press conference when you tell the truth and actually answer the question and know about the subject.

been 4 years since we had that

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lol fox 'Biden sticks to written notes"......

sigh..my god how does anyone even bother with them

[Benggaul]

How dare a president be prepared!
.... ignoring that Trump's last press secretary always had a massive binder for her answers lol

And also ignoring that every time Trump spoke in front of cameras he had hugely obvious notes penned in Sharpie clearly visible.

[Breccia]

So Biden has his press conference and the only thing the Cult can flail about with is his long pauses and his stutter?

They're down to memes at this point. Disagreeing with policies is one thing, but with that aside, Biden's pretty much been objectively better than Trump. More appointed Cabinet officials, more laws signed, more press conferences, etc. He's so boringly efficient, the rabid fanbase is left with "yeah but...but..he banned Dr. Seuss!"

[Zan15]

i love it





FoxLiveBlogTeam

50 minutes ago
Biden finishes the press conference -- just over an hour long, and without taking a question from Fox News among other outlets.



hahahaha so bitter, so salty.

[Edge-]

i love it





FoxLiveBlogTeam

50 minutes ago
Biden finishes the press conference -- just over an hour long, and without taking a question from Fox News among other outlets.



hahahaha so bitter, so salty.

He didn't even call them "FAKE NEWS", why are they cryin?

[Breccia]

Biden finishes the press conference -- just over an hour long, and without taking a question from Fox News among other outlets.

Is there a Pulitzer Prize in hypocrisy?

Trump already set precedent by throwing reporters out of the White House, just for being on "the wrong" channel. FOX News can voluntarily leave the WH press corps, or they can wait their turn like everyone else, or they could not be such rabid fanbase pieces of mediexcrement that make everyone center-right and over grimace when their name comes up.

[Santti]

Is there a Pulitzer Prize in hypocrisy?

Trump already set precedent by throwing reporters out of the White House, just for being on "the wrong" channel. FOX News can voluntarily leave the WH press corps, or they can wait their turn like everyone else, or they could not be such rabid fanbase pieces of mediexcrement that make everyone center-right and over grimace when their name comes up.

I'd love to see Fox News kicked out of the WH. They labeled themselves as entertainment after all, and not news. Rub it in all over their faces.

"We don't have time for hobbyists and pretenders. WH is for real news outlets. Come back when you are ready to take this more seriously".

Or something like that.

[Milchshake]

Is there a Pulitzer Prize in hypocrisy?

Trump already set precedent by throwing reporters out of the White House, just for being on "the wrong" channel. FOX News can voluntarily leave the WH press corps, or they can wait their turn like everyone else, or they could not be such rabid fanbase pieces of mediexcrement that make everyone center-right and over grimace when their name comes up.

Um the WHCA threw a going away party for Sarah Huckabee sanders. 6 years ago they chided Obama for giving Fox the cold shoulder. Real circle the wagons bullshit for the class clique.

People on the street could ask better questions. The WHCA has basically devolved into Mean Girls, but for Access Journalism.


Anyways my point is, Fox New and OANN are there because of the WHCA.

[Breccia]

GOP opposes Biden for waiving certain requirements of accountability in education.

Congressional Republicans argued Thursday that Education Secretary Miguel Cardona’s plans for states to request waivers for certain school accountability requirements during the pandemic appear to overstep his limitations.

In a letter sent to Cardona’s office, House Education and Labor Committee Ranking Member Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.) and Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee Ranking Member Richard Burr (R-N.C.) wrote that while they “applaud the Department’s efforts to provide states clarity around federal requirements for this academic year and for the expedited process being offered,” they were concerned about Cardona’s “commitment to faithfully executing the laws under” his “jurisdiction.”

The Education Department is requiring that schools participate in standardized testing this school year in order to measure the impact the pandemic has had on students’ progress.

However, Foxx and Burr argued Thursday that the under current law, the education secretary is prohibited from “disapproving a waiver request based on conditions outside the scope of the request and explicitly lists the circumstances under which the Secretary can disapprove a request.”

“The waiver template the Department released last week appears to violate these statutory limitations,” the GOP members argued, pointing out that the template requires states to report information on “chronic absenteeism and access to technology,” as well as “additional information on a laundry list of other metrics.”

Hmm. Interesting. Hey, remember when Trump made it nearly impossible for students to report rape to their school? Let's see what the GOP said about that at the time.

(checks news)

Yeah, you already know what I found. If the GOP cared about the limits of the office, they had four years to say something. They have ceded that responsibility and by proxy the right that goes with it.

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6 years ago they chided Obama for giving Fox the cold shoulder.

Hmm. Interesting. Of course, a lot's changed in four years.

[Santti]

Hmm. Interesting. Hey, remember when Trump made it nearly impossible for students to report rape to their school? Let's see what the GOP said about that at the time.

(checks news)

Yeah, you already know what I found. If the GOP cared about the limits of the office, they had four years to say something. They have ceded that responsibility and by proxy the right that goes with it.

For fucks sake... What is wrong with these people?

[Paranoid Android]

Georgia's sweeping Republican-backed election-law overhaul bill is immediately sent to the state Senate after passing the state House, moving it one step closer to enacting election law changes and restricting voter access in the state

If you can't beat em...Cheat. Pretty blatant since Georgia lost Electoral votes and 2 Senate seats. Can't have those dark people vote.

[Milchshake]

Where would American journalism be—heck, where would America *democracy* be—without brave reporters asking Biden questions like whether he thinks Trump will run in 2024?

Not a single question about Covid from the press.

[Edge-]

Not a single question about Covid from the press.

They're all super thirsty for those Trump-outrage clicks and eyeballs again.

Telling you, if media companies weren't prepare for a Trump loss they're gonna be in for a rough time now that politics is being discussed at the adult table, again.