Freedom or Vaccines?
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What what was wrong with that statement? Or is it not the right-wing media that is always anti Cuba?
Try following your own advice for once.
But whatever, your bullshit aint worth my time, putting you on ignore.
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You understand that an island nation under blockade by the US has no chance in hell of every not been dirt poor, right?
Cuba is in its current state all thanks to the US, who clearly have no problems with letting the Cubans suffer as much as possible.
All that, just because those ghouls want another puppet state in the Caribbean?
Not to mention how Gitmo is more horrible than anything going on in modern Cuba.
Last edited by JohnBrown1917; 2021-07-12 at 08:53 PM.
Julie Chung is a he now? Please show me where I quoted anyone from the administration besides the secratary. The sevcratary responded and it was so obtuse they had to get something else out. And you posting things said after the backlash...bravo......... You really "got me"
The best part of these posts is, I can't see any of them because I blocked so many people who bring Trump in to every argument because they literally have nothing. Everything they say has to do with Trump. He is living rent free in their heads and they STILL CAN'T LET GO OF HIM. You can keep posting about Trump and trolling me, but I won't see it. Meanwhile, ignoring stuff happening seems to be your forte.
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blame Trump for people in Cuba wanting freedom and waving American flags? okay?
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Yep, just vaccines, nothing else. Your article was great in finding out it is just vaccines"We are going through really difficult times," Miranda Lazara, 53, a dance teacher, who joined the thousands of protesters who marched through Havana. "We need a change of system."
HAVANA, July 11 (Reuters) - Chanting "freedom" and calling for President Miguel Diaz-Canel to step down, thousands of Cubans joined street protests from Havana to Santiago on Sunday in the biggest anti-government demonstrations on the Communist-run island in decades.
The protests erupted amid Cuba's worst economic crisis since the fall of the Soviet Union, its old ally, and a record surge in coronavirus infections, with people voicing anger over shortages of basic goods, curbs on civil liberties and the authorities' handling of the pandemic.
Thousands took to the streets in various parts of Havana including the historic centre, their shouts of “Diaz-Canel step down” drowning out groups of government supporters waving the Cuban flag and chanting "Fidel."
Special forces jeeps, with machine guns mounted on the back were seen throughout the capital and the police presence was heavy even long after most protesters had gone home by the 9 p.m. curfew in place due to the pandemic.
"We are going through really difficult times," Miranda Lazara, 53, a dance teacher, who joined the thousands of protesters who marched through Havana. "We need a change of system."
Diaz-Canel, who also heads the Communist Party, blamed the unrest on old Cold War foe the United States, which in recent years tightened its decades-old trade embargo on the island, in a televised speech on Sunday afternoon.
Diaz-Canel said many protesters were sincere but manipulated by U.S.-orchestrated social media campaigns and “mercenaries” on the ground, and warned that further “provocations” would not be tolerated, calling on supporters to confront “provocations."
The president was due to make another address to the nation at 9 a.m. on Monday, according to state-run media.
Julie Chung, acting undersecretary of the U.S. State Department's Office of Western Hemisphere Affairs, said it was deeply concerned by “calls to combat” in Cuba and stood by the Cuban people’s right for peaceful assembly."
Reuters witnesses in Havana protests saw security forces, aided by suspected plain clothes officers, arrest about two dozen protesters. Police used pepper spray and hit some protesters as well as a photographer working for the Associated Press.
In one area of Havana, protesters took out their anger on an empty police car, rolling it over and then throwing stones at it. Elsewhere, they chanted "repressors" at riot police.
Some protesters said they went on to the streets to join in after seeing what was happening on social media, which has become an increasingly important factor since the introduction of mobile internet two and a half years ago, although connections were patchy on Sunday.
NATIONWIDE PROTESTS
People shout slogans against the government during a protest against and in support of the government, amidst the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak, in Havana, Cuba July 11, 2021.
The Caribbean island nation of 11 million inhabitants where public dissident is usually restricted has seen a growing number of protests over the past year although nothing on this scale or simultaneously in so many cities.
The anti-government demonstrations were the largest since the summer of 1994, said Michael Bustamante, an assistant professor of Latin American history at Florida International University.
"Only now, they weren't limited to the capital; they didn't even start there, it seems," he said.
Last edited by TexasRules; 2021-07-12 at 09:43 PM.
So when the secretary tweeted the unrest was over vaccines and said nothing about freedom or food it becomes a lazy strawman created by me? I wish i lived in your democrat party affiliated filter. I can discern this information just by changing what a government official actually said.
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For some reason the Cubans that come here seem to really like it. I have no idea what Biden supports, have to ask his advisors who will tell him what to say.
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Words to live by.
For some reason a lot of them where from rich families who owned plantations or they supported Batista, yeah I really wonder why they would be opposed to the pro-Castro majority at the time.
If Biden is following his advisors advice, it means he supports those views... Which the exact treatment you want of Cuba. Unless you want the US to invade or something even more insane.
I am not a victim, i get banned for doing something other people do not. Cubby always says my name as Texaslies, I once called him chubby instead and got banned for it. That is literally what I got banned for. I am not a victim, but as a minority here, I often get reported to censor me so that they can keep up their narratives. It's why you have a Trump thread for a guy who has been out of office for over half a year....they need a demon to talk about on a regular basis. That guy lives rent free int heir heads....I bet they think about him every day. Every day they torture themselves and say mean things just to try and make their lives more bearable.
you said I created a strawman. I simply put up what the administration's representative said. I did not change it, i did not alter it, i did not take it out of context. I put the entire quote up. At no point did they change this until a huge backlash hit them from both parties. The protests at most cities are not about the vaccine but specifically food and medicine, most reports do not even mention the vaccines. And chants of freedom have exactly what to do with the vaccines? Show me how I am being dishonest. They made a broader statement to include everything today because they realized they were tone deaf and nobody liked what they said. I think you're the one being dishonest.
And then proceeded to deliberately misinterpret it to service said dumb strawman. We know.
Vaccines aren't medicine, y'all. You heard it here first.The protests at most cities are not about the vaccine but specifically food and medicine
Which I acknowledged by pointing out it's a simplification.They made a broader statement to include everything today because they realized they were tone deaf and nobody liked what they said
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
Not salty about it. I defended myself when you called me a victim. I am not part of the democratic party or their embracing of victim hood as a platform. Oh no, I got banned from a forum where 98% think about Trump on a daily basis to make their lives miserable and then blame him for everything that has ever happened. Then when you ask why they don't post stuff like this, you get "well create your own post, I need to whine in the Trump thread". You post almost 11 times a day here, I come here once every other month to ruffle feathers with things people don't see because it's not on the hufpost. average 11 times a day, you're a saint here.