SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Paranoid Android]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/3akq...acement-theory



Ah yes, the racist as fuck "Great Replacement" theory.

Shocking that there's considerable overlap between the crowd of racist shitlords who believe this shit and the crowd that wants the government to have control over girls and women's bodily autonomy.

Saw this. Idk where this post should go. Mother Bleep!

Tell me the "both sides" of political parties? This party is about white supremacy. Why don't people get it. Plus I mean Nebraska, ummm yea.

Also besides white replacement he is talking about labor. I mean of course you need labor, but you can't tell me he acknowledges that just making kids if for a cheap labor force. Getting deep here but if Nebraska can't get people into their state for labor maybe fix your pro-labor, pro-living. Also immigration is needed, and sorry you fuckin Nazi' they are not all going to come from Europe to keep your white blood lines going.

[Edge-]

Saw this. Idk where this post should go. Mother Bleep!

Tell me the "both sides" of political parties? This party is about white supremacy. Why don't people get it. Plus I mean Nebraska, ummm yea.

Also besides white replacement he is talking about labor. I mean of course you need labor, but you can't tell me he acknowledges that just making kids if for a cheap labor force. Getting deep here but if Nebraska can't get people into their state for labor maybe fix your pro-labor, pro-living. Also immigration is needed, and sorry you fuckin Nazi' they are not all going to come from Europe to keep your white blood lines going.

This is the same party that was out there arguing that grandma and grandpa needed to sacrifice their lives by going out shopping during the pandemic to save the economy, so is it any surprise some of them also view children as little more than cogs on the economic wheel?

[Paranoid Android]

This is the same party that was out there arguing that grandma and grandpa needed to sacrifice their lives by going out shopping during the pandemic to save the economy, so is it any surprise some of them also view children as little more than cogs on the economic wheel?

Technically not part of this thread but look into the Child Labor laws being dismantled? Pro-Life?

So in large to keep on topic. The right truly does see women as child incubators and children as a tool to the labor force. Oh and that whole Nazi, white replacement thing.

[Varx]

This is the same party that was out there arguing that grandma and grandpa needed to sacrifice their lives by going out shopping during the pandemic to save the economy, so is it any surprise some of them also view children as little more than cogs on the economic wheel?

There's nothing wrong with being concerned about the number of the population, especially when you think about decades down the line.

Another sub issue that is effected by abortion.

Better to bring light to these potential crisis now instead of when it's too late.

We don't need a handmaid tale issue now do we? In regards to the population. Not the forced breeding, obviously.

[Edge-]

There's nothing wrong with being concerned about the number of the population, especially when you think about decades down the line.

Sure, if that's what they were talking about.

But it wasn't. They were specifically talking about the white population. Because they're white supremacist fucks.

Also, if you're including "they're important for the economy" in a discussion about having and raising children then that's kinda uh...fucked up?

Another sub issue that is effected by abortion.

It's absolutely not. If you're going to take the economic approach to this topic - which y'all usually recoil in horror from - the economics absolutely support bodily autonomy.

https://www.americanprogress.org/art...across-the-us/

Especially given the lack of support for social programs from the "pro-life" crowd that would actually result in longer term economic gains and reduced childhood poverty and suffering.

Better to bring light to these potential crisis now instead of when it's too late.

There's no crisis. Unless you're a white supremacist who is dedicated to keeping America white.

We don't need a handmaid tale issue now do we? In regards to the population. Not the forced breeding, obviously.

I mean...nice new PFP bro (lol the dude wants to fuck teenagers), but the fact that you think the handmaid tale issue is coming from anywhere other than the Republican party then I have many bridges to sell you at a steep discount, basically free!

[Varx]

Sure, if that's what they were talking about.

But it wasn't. They were specifically talking about the white population. Because they're white supremacist fucks.

Also, if you're including "they're important for the economy" in a discussion about having and raising children then that's kinda uh...fucked up?



It's absolutely not. If you're going to take the economic approach to this topic - which y'all usually recoil in horror from - the economics absolutely support bodily autonomy.

https://www.americanprogress.org/art...across-the-us/

Especially given the lack of support for social programs from the "pro-life" crowd that would actually result in longer term economic gains and reduced childhood poverty and suffering.



There's no crisis. Unless you're a white supremacist who is dedicated to keeping America white.



I mean...nice new PFP bro (lol the dude wants to fuck teenagers), but the fact that you think the handmaid tale issue is coming from anywhere other than the Republican party then I have many bridges to sell you at a steep discount, basically free!

Good luck proving MW wants to fuck teenagers. Don't hold your breath.... Libs will try and try again to stain great MW's name and fail miserably each and every time.


And the guy NEVER said anything about white population.

He was specifically talking about natural born citizens vs foreigners. There's nothing there about white supremacists, lmao

[Poopymonster]

But hey, lets bring them to life so they can suffer.

It's an Evangelical thing. Birth them, baptize them, let them die to add them to God's army. That's all that counts.

According to sadist Mother Teresa, that brings them closer to the lord.

[Shadowferal]

Billionaire Harlan Crow Bought Property From Clarence Thomas. The Justice Didn’t Disclose the Deal

The transaction marks the first known instance of money flowing from the Republican megadonor to the Supreme Court justice. The Crow company bought the properties for $133,363 from three co-owners — Thomas, his mother and the family of Thomas’ late brother, according to a state tax document and a deed dated Oct. 15, 2014, filed at the Chatham County courthouse.

The purchase put Crow in an unusual position: He now owned the house where the justice’s elderly mother was living. Soon after the sale was completed, contractors began work on tens of thousands of dollars of improvements on the two-bedroom, one-bathroom home, which looks out onto a patch of orange trees. The renovations included a carport, a repaired roof and a new fence and gates, according to city permit records and blueprints.

A federal disclosure law passed after Watergate requires justices and other officials to disclose the details of most real estate sales over $1,000. Thomas never disclosed his sale of the Savannah properties.

The disclosure form Thomas filed for that year also had a space to report the identity of the buyer in any private transaction, such as a real estate deal. That space is blank.

“He needed to report his interest in the sale,” said Virginia Canter, a former government ethics lawyer now at the watchdog group CREW. “Given the role Crow has played in subsidizing the lifestyle of Thomas and his wife, you have to wonder if this was an effort to put cash in their pockets.”

Ethics law experts said Crow’s intentions had no bearing on Thomas’ legal obligation to disclose the sale.

The justice’s failure to report the transaction suggests “Thomas was hiding a financial relationship with Crow,” said Kathleen Clark, a legal ethics expert at Washington University in St. Louis who reviewed years of Thomas’ disclosure filings.

revelation of a direct financial transaction between Thomas and Crow casts their relationship in a new light. ProPublica reported last week that Thomas has accepted luxury travel from Crow virtually every year for decades, including private jet flights, international cruises on the businessman’s superyacht and regular stays at his private resort in the Adirondacks. Crow has long been influential in conservative politics and has spent millions on efforts to shape the law and the judiciary.

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Fucker broke the law. Put him in a cell next to Trump.

[Paranoid Android]

The Florida House has approved a bill that would ban most abortions after six weeks, one of the nation's most restrictive. The bill now goes to Gov. Ron DeSantis, who has indicated his support.

RIP to Florida but possibly they will be our martyr on the national level. If(?) DeSantis gets the nomination should should be a huge blow and should be mentioned every time in any debate. I yearn that this will stick with voters and never sleep that this is a direct connection of Florida to a National Ban.

By Pew Research Florida by 56% favors abortion legal in all/most cases.. So once more right wing legislation against popular support.

[SoulForge]

So once more right wing legislation against popular support.

Shocking to no one. Abortion has like a 70% approval across the country? They don't give a shit. They have never cared about what people want.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Good luck proving MW wants to fuck teenagers.

Everyone knows Matt Walsh fucks children. We also know that top tier politicians won't be held accountable for crimes. For as much as the right cries about how the rich and powerful are above the law and will never be held accountable, in their minds they're only thinking of the left wing types. When in reality it's every rich and powerful person, including (and especially) the right. That and Republicans continue to uphold laws that make it legal to marry 12 year olds. And it's Republicans, youth pastors, and other alt right personas that keep getting caught with kiddie porn or charged for diddling pre teens daily. It's just the random joes and politicians in lower level political positions that get arrested and charged.

But anyway, seems the Texas ruling about the abortion pill was overturned, but it was also pushed back that it can't be received by mail, and you have to get the pill within a time period where you wouldn't even know you're pregnant unless you had good reason to believe you engaged in unprotected sex during ovulation. The time limit is extremely restrictive and unrealistic for people who say, used protection, didn't think they would get pregnant, and did anyway, but now can't get the pill because it's past the 3 weeks mark restriction for the pill. Oh and you have to have 3 doctors visits before you can get the pill.

Republicans once again detached from reality. Well wait, they're not detached from reality. They're just the pro-birth party, and don't give a fuck about women, and only see them as incubators for future white supremacists and exploitable cheap labor.

[beanman12345]

The Florida House has approved a bill that would ban most abortions after six weeks, one of the nation's most restrictive. The bill now goes to Gov. Ron DeSantis, who has indicated his support.

RIP to Florida but possibly they will be our martyr on the national level. If(?) DeSantis gets the nomination should should be a huge blow and should be mentioned every time in any debate. I yearn that this will stick with voters and never sleep that this is a direct connection of Florida to a National Ban.

By Pew Research Florida by 56% favors abortion legal in all/most cases.. So once more right wing legislation against popular support.

Even Trump who put the 3 judges in that secured the end of Roe, isn't stupid enough to be openly "pro-life" because he actually wants to win a general election. DeSantis killing on his own presidential aspirations before announcing. And he's backed himself in a corner because now if he doesn't sign he won't have enough to make it to a general, ever. Considering he's really their only hope after Trump, just more evidence the joke of a party is going the way of the Whigs.

[Darththeo]

Good luck proving MW wants to fuck teenagers. Don't hold your breath.... Libs will try and try again to stain great MW's name and fail miserably each and every time.

There is literally a clip of him saying that there is no such thing as a teenage pregnancy problem, but an unwed mother problem.
And that 16 is the point in time where a "woman" is most fertile.

If you could explain how someone could hold both of these positions and not want to have intercourse with teenagers, please be my guest.

[Endus]

There is literally a clip of him saying that there is no such thing as a teenage pregnancy problem, but an unwed mother problem.
And that 16 is the point in time where a "woman" is most fertile.

If you could explain how someone could hold both of these positions and not want to have intercourse with teenagers, please be my guest.

Let's be fair, shall we? We don't know Matt Walsh himself wants to fuck teens.

He just wants them all to be sold into child marriages and raped into pregnancy because that's all he thinks women are good for.

[Flarelaine]

Please do not contribute further to the success of the derailing operation. Matt Walsh is not the topic of this thread.

[Dontrike]

Indeed. If we force people to have children, we will have more faces to press to the grindstone. A perfect plan!

And more soldiers in the fight against "communism."

[Mekh]

Please do not contribute further to the success of the derailing operation. Matt Walsh is not the topic of this thread.

Please just permaban people like him so we can have normal discourse.

[Elder Millennial]

Shocking to no one. Abortion has like a 70% approval across the country? They don't give a shit. They have never cared about what people want.

Yeah, but Floridians will vote overwhelmingly for DeSantis and ilk because Covid Vaccines are Cuban Communists and Fidel Castro overrunning America.

Or something.

[Fugus]

Please do not contribute further to the success of the derailing operation. Matt Walsh is not the topic of this thread.

When they derail the thread or knowingly post false information, would you consider that "Posts that contribute nothing"?

When they post lies based on nothing but their own faith and then reject any facts that disprove it, would you consider that "Posting Conspiracy Theories"?

If so, there is no need to warn the group, just go after the individuals whom are breaking the 2 rules above as they are already part of the rules.


Also, you guys have repeatedly said that you didn't have the authority when it came to people breaking those 2 rules and just relied on the other users to fact check them over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. The derailments are quite literally a consequence of them being fact checked when they are allowed to break the rules without consequence like they have.

[tehdang]

I'm actually quoting your response to my post. This is really not a difficult concept to grasp. Please explain why, after commenting on an article where the first line mentions parental consent, you then had to "investigate" the law to find out about the parental consent part.

I had to investigate a Senator's statement, because she mentioned Idaho "preventing young women in Idaho from exercising their constitutional right to travel to get the legal abortion care they need." Her statement did not mention parental consent, so which law she was referring to had to be guessed. Re-read my post to find my comments regarding her statement referencing a law, not your article referencing a particular law.

Hospitals and doctors are not expert in laws. They depend on the advice of their legal departments and liability insurance carriers. If legislators could not be bothered to write unambiguous laws which are clear to lawyers and insurance carriers, then the problem is with them. Not with the hospitals, doctors, or even the news.

If journalists can't be bothered to check up on their assertions of ambiguous provisions, then the problem is with them. Simply put, certain partisans want to assert ambiguity because it helps their cause. Your argument consists in defending the deliberate publication of misinformation, simply because some doctors and hospitals believed it. And, like my post referenced, writing follow-up stories on the chaos as they checked with counsel and administrators. Conservative outlets have documented it since this started frequently happening last year:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/...ing-condition/
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...c-pregnancies/

It serves notice on pro-life citizens just how committed their opponents are to winning.

Mothers looking for an abortion and no other option are tricked into being guilt tripped. If you googled where to find McDonald's, found a location, arrived, and then they accosted you to try and preach at you about the evils of McDonald's and why you should buy Wendy's, that goes beyond a "free speech" level and starts breaking into law-breaking territory.

Going to a McDonalds and being discouraged from buying McDonalds products? Now, this would be more like going to a burger place and being shocked and surprised that cheeseburgers are spoken of more highly than hamburgers.

It's why the California case was justified. The pregnancy crisis centers are a scam. They don't offer anything for mothers who do come and already want to keep the pregnancy. They send those people away, not offering any kind of pregnancy assistance. Their entire reason for existing is to try and guilt trip people into carrying pregnancies to term, as well as yes, accosting people from abortion clinics to do that very same guilt tripping.

They do offer things for mothers who come and want to keep the pregnancy. Like ultrasounds, prenatal supplements, screenings, diapers, baby toys, blankets, and tons of other stuff. I swear that half the arguments against crisis pregnancy centers are people that have never been to one and just make up which services they aren't going to provide.

The state has no business telling them that they're not pushing contraception or abortion hard enough. They aren't advertising subsidized abortions and then refusing to perform them when the pregnant mother enters through the doors. It's not like the state can barge into a private center and decide how much speech they're allowed to dedicate to providing for a baby despite financial troubles, and how much speech they must put out extolling first trimester abortion care. Just to quote from the Supreme Court case, the state has it's own problems with seeking "to suppress unpopular ideas or information" through their laws on speech. And the state exempted other providers from their law on speech.

I will say, your obsession over a Democrat leaving out a single detail (which turned out to be irrelevant even then) is pretty funny when faced with the fact that the law is overall draconian and will most likely tie the hands of anyone who wishes to help the child out of a rape or incest pregnancy that the parents are forcing them to have.

"It's just for minors and parental consent" is not just a little detail compared to "preventing young women in Idaho from exercising their constitutional right to travel to get the legal abortion care." The second leaves the reader to think all young women cannot travel to a different state to obtain an abortion.

We call Republicans the "pro-birth" party for a reason. Because they don't care about life. When people die, it's their fault. When people suffer, it's their fault. When they go hungry, fuck em. When pregnant women need help, fuck em. But when they want to have an abortion? OH NO WE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THAT FETUS HOW DARE YOU.

Their own actions make their priorities clear. They don't care about life. They want to control women, and if they can fuck them over in the process.

Too busy helping pregnant women with their needs to make time for how mad Democrats are that it isn't exclusively routed through the state.

I won't give anyone who calls themselves "pro-life" the benefit of the doubt about them until they also support:
Universal health care
Free for the family and not district funded schools
Free school lunch
Guaranteed housing

At a minimum. Until that they are only pro birth, suffering, and control.

I never said you have to extend the benefit of the doubt. Just don't go on the internet arguing that the pro-life position is wrong and that they can't call themselves pro-life. That's just inviting circular arguments that say very little more than "My worldview is pro-abort, therefore other worldviews are wrong" or "Your worldview is wrong, therefore you can't choose labels within your worldview." I am even-handed in this: it also applies to pro-lifers that demand others identify as pro-death ("Because, logically that's what you guys are"). Thank you, just argue the position, don't also argue the taxonomy. It's worthless.

The shoe is on the other foot now. It is Democrats turn to use abortion to drive turnout, and it worked in Wisconsin. Protasiewicz won the major metro areas by 73% which was 3% higher than Biden victory. Her biggest gains were in medium-sized metropolitan areas (Madison, Green Bay, and Duluth, Minnesota, whose metro area has one county in Wisconsin). In those metros, she performed 7% better than Biden in 2020. She garnered 45% of the rural vote in the election which was 5% better than Biden in 2020 and the U.S. Senate race in 2022.

The issue still drives the anti-abortion supporters. Kelly actually received 200,000 more votes than when he ran against Karofsky in 2020. He would have won if this was still 2020. Unfortunately for him, Protasiewicz received around 400,000 more votes than Karofsky.

Younger voters and suburban voters showed up big time. The vote totals out of suburban-heavy Dane County was impressive. It's the state's second most populated county behind Milwaukee - but it produced more votes for Protasiewicz than Milwaukee, 240,000 vs. 233,000.

She did significantly better than Biden in 2020 and Barnes in 2022 in all parts of Wisconsin, from major metropolitan areas to rural counties. She almost won ruby red Ozaukee county.

That Texas judge did not do the GOP any favor with his decision. Hence the muted response.

Not a universal rule. Georgia (a state Trump lost) voted for Brian Kemp over Stacey Abrams despite Kemp signing a heartbeat bill months before the election. DeWine in Ohio also voted for heartbeat bills, and won by 25 points (compare that to JD Vance who only won by 6 points). You can't say about either that their abortion positions really hurt them. The biggest turnarounds will be in places with full bans or no exceptions, with more varied responses on first trimester restrictions with exceptions.