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    Still engaging in circular arguments with the salty spittoon, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Yeah, I watched the surrounding sections which equated to 30 minutes. Nothing he says in any way indicates he is anything but supporting Trump this year.
    I’ve also seen his Peterson interview as well. It’s... it’s..........

    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Still engaging in circular arguments with the salty spittoon, huh?
    I’m not the one who scheduled Giants for Monday Night Football...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    The only video clipped in that article was the full episode and everyone including those who hate Rogan are reffering to it when it's over 3 hours long. It's clear the people agruing against me didn't watch the entire video or even the entire exchange that made his say those words.

    Out of context clipping and wording is the worst form of media, and everyone just uses it as ammo on here to win an argument. Again disregard context and nuance if you want. It doesn't actually get you anything.

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    No it's closer to someone continually referring to click bait as evidence.
    You mean like random YouTube videos about Rogan being a moderator for a debate?

    Well, this is awkward...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Have you heard of the reformed alt right movement on YouTube? I don’t follow the drama, but been picking up the peaces recently. There are several self described liberals, that are former alt right, that are arguing the exact think Jett is. It’s Shoe0nhead and her husband ArmoredSkeptic. It’s word for word... the logic being... If you can’t criticize your own camp, you can’t really believe in it.
    This is the thing though. Critique is fine. But doing it just to say, 'HERE IS MY VOICE AND I MUST USE IT' is just lazy.

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    Its kinda like in an island when you've just killed the other team and they come stampeding off the boat after you while not being worth any azerite and you just have to sigh and kill them again.
    You have to admit it's kinda funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Haven't you made the argument that if you aren't voting for Biden you're supporting Trump?
    If you aren’t voting for Biden you are clearly okay with the way Trump has been running the country, as you are doing nothing effective to change it.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Haven't you made the argument that if you aren't voting for Biden you're supporting Trump?

    I know more than a few on here have done just as much.
    Then paint everyone with the same brush, while complaining about it. Why would you want a conservative moderation like Joe Rogan, instead of a progressive one? Would you want one to expose how conservative Biden is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    There is a lot more to Democracy then voting. Voting is probably the easiest, and laziest way.
    It’s the only way... democracy isn’t defined by activism, but by voting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Activism is about getting people to vote to change things in a democracy. Weird Jettisawn can’t grasp that concept.
    Because his only motive is to seek conflict. Which post is he more likely to respond to, one with Biden’s policy being listed, or someone making aversions to him being a Trump supporter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    It also means you're supporting Biden, by that logic.
    As much as you try to make that an insult, it’s not working. Shaming doesn’t work, when the opponent is Trump... you said nearly the same recently.
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...l-house-414585

    House Republicans at least realize that they need to actually stand for something and pretend that they have ideas and aren't intellectually bankrupt. So hey, maybe we'll see some fresh new ideas on economic recovery from the party arguing that $600 a week for unemployed folks is letting them live the high life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    There are a few way from being a volunteer, donating, campaigning, door knocking (not this year obviously), and protesting.
    Meaningless if people don’t vote...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    It also means you're supporting Biden, by that logic.
    Nope. Because Biden isn't the sitting president right now. By not voting against the person residing, you are okay with the possibility of him getting re-elected. The only way to prevent that from happening is to vote for the person who has the chance to replace him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by omerome View Post
    Nope. Because Biden isn't the sitting president right now. By not voting against the person residing, you are essentially okay with him getting re-elected. The only way to prevent that from happening is to vote for the person who has the chance to replace him.
    Don’t let him turn voting Biden into an insult... shaming people to not vote Biden is fucked.
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    First time I have seen this clip. For others who may not, here it is..

    What a bunch of horse shit. Talk about pandering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...l-house-414585

    House Republicans at least realize that they need to actually stand for something and pretend that they have ideas and aren't intellectually bankrupt. So hey, maybe we'll see some fresh new ideas on economic recovery from the party arguing that $600 a week for unemployed folks is letting them live the high life.
    I'm sure their plans will be just as amazing as all their failed plans on what to replace obamacare with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Yeah, I mean it's not like we have the First Amendment to as a Democratic principle or anything crazy like that. I mean it was clearly for Cat Videos on YouTube and so you can only hear the political discourse you agree with.
    First Amendment was established and can be challenged, in the Republic part of our Democratic Republic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Don’t let him turn voting Biden into an insult... shaming people to not vote Biden is fucked.
    It is, but isn't that the purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    First time I have seen this clip. For others who may not, here it is..

    What a bunch of horse shit. Talk about pandering.
    That’s pretty bad ass... go Biden!!!

    Know your audience... lol

    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    It is, but isn't that the purpose?
    I don’t think he realizes it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Don’t let him turn voting Biden into an insult...
    Yeah, I know...but it's just upsetting to me.

    Still, though, people's justification that voting for the third-party is somehow the smart thing to do when we all know right now that in our system, it is just a wasted vote. That is what's insulting. You can't complain when you did nothing to change the outcome. You don't get to complain when you didn't make a difference. And you don't get to complain when the incumbent does more damage if re-elected when you had the opportunity to do something about it. Vote for change - it's our voice and we all need to use it responsively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by omerome View Post
    Yeah, I know...but it's just upsetting to me.

    Still, though, people's justification that voting for the third-party is somehow the smart thing to do when we all know right now that in our system, it is just a wasted vote. That is what's insulting. You can't complain when you did nothing to change the outcome. You don't get to complain when you didn't make a difference. And you don't get to complain when the incumbent does more damage if re-elected when you had the opportunity to do something about it. Vote for change - it's our voice and we all need to use it responsively.
    Dude... I lived in USSR... this is abhorrent... I get infracted when ever I let it all out. He is too afraid to respond to me, so there is not point in emphasizing with an infraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    First time I have seen this clip. For others who may not, here it is..

    What a bunch of horse shit. Talk about pandering.
    He isn't wrong, and everything he said was the truth. I don't know why you are saying he is pandering.

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