Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Ripster42]

You are way behind the times in the precedent department...

The precedent was set July 6, 2020. Keep up.

[Felya]

You are way behind the times in the precedent department...

Like... Trump is the current president... are you from the future? or you think anyone will care about republicans bitching, after what Trump has pulled?

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How are people still posting stuff that has been debunked multiple times. Supreme Court ruled against unfaithful electors.

They are proud of thinking elections can be stolen.

[Kellhound]

Nope they can't. Scotus ruled they gotta follow state laws. state laws gives biden minimum 270. #dealwithit

And only 14 states have laws to override a faithless elector. NY and PA (as well as 15 others) have no laws against it. So just removing NY and PA from Biden's total moves him under 270 state law guaranteed votes.

[Felya]

The precedent was set July 6, 2020. Keep up.

I think they believe people will just pretend the last 4 years didn’t happen... I guess theo already started saying to stop talking about Trump... even though you can still hear the echo of “lock her up” ringing in the air...

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And only 14 states have laws to override a faithless elector. NY and PA (as well as 15 others) have no laws against it. So just removing NY and PA from Biden's total moves him under 270 state law guaranteed votes.

Yeah, and you think defying the will of American people, will work?

[Kellhound]

that excuse might have flown... in 2016.

or at any point up until he lost.

Or you just can't understand that some people think a Dem president is worse than Trump.

[Felya]

Or you just can't understand that some people think a Dem president is worse than Trump.

No, people understand how his disinformation works... we have people talking about faithless electors... They know,..

[beanman12345]

And only 14 states have laws to override a faithless elector. NY and PA (as well as 15 others) have no laws against it. So just removing NY and PA from Biden's total moves him under 270 state law guaranteed votes.

there won't be any faithless electors in NY, wtf is wrong with you even making such absurdity. The rest of the state still give biden 270 even without PA. You are wrong. there is no argument you can make to think you'll ever be right. biden has minumum 270 faithful electors based on states he won. #dealwithit.

[Hinastorm]

as i said before, i think it needs to be done at a local & state level first. thats why you saw florida pass the $15 raise while rejecting left candidates.
they want the policy but not the labels attached.

Cause we're stupid as fuck. And isn't that florida one $10 now, and +$1 over the next 5 years? Not to mention it STILL won't be a living wage in any city?

It's something, but it's so slow. Gonna lose another 10% of value from inflation alone over those years.

It is so infuriating how slow the pace of progress is here.

[Kellhound]

How are people still posting stuff that has been debunked multiple times. Supreme Court ruled against unfaithful electors.

SCOTUS ruled states can prohibit faithless electors, not that no one can be unfaithful. Major difference.

[Ripster42]

I think they believe people will just pretend the last 4 years didn’t happen... I guess theo already started saying to stop talking about Trump... even though you can still hear the echo of “lock her up” ringing in the air...

She's been retconning her trumps stance for the past couple years. Zan linked some old election threads maybe 50 pages ago, so I went leafing through them to see all the people permanently banned/deleted. She was literally posting videos defending trump.

[Felya]

there won't be any faithless electors in NY, wtf is wrong with you even making such absurdity. The rest of the state still give biden 270 even without PA. You are wrong. there is no argument you can make to think you'll ever be right. biden has minumum 270 faithful electors based on states he won. #dealwithit.

If he tries it, all of his property will burn... not just US... the people he fucked over all over the world... including Scotland... will burn down his property...

[beanman12345]

Cause we're stupid as fuck. And isn't that florida one $10 now, and +$1 over the next 5 years?

It's something, but it's so slow. Gonna lose another 10% of value from inflation alone over those years.

It is so infuriating how slow the pace of progress is here.

it's infuriating but +1 a year helps the small businesses cope. it should be auto 15 for big businesses though.

[Ripster42]

SCOTUS ruled states can prohibit faithless electors, not that no one can be unfaithful. Major difference.

Prohibit and replace. As in, if they vote against their constituency, they get replaced.

[Felya]

SCOTUS ruled states can prohibit faithless electors, not that no one can be unfaithful. Major difference.

You think that’s a legitimate strategy? You don’t think that devolves democracy and proves every single democrat right?

[Ausr]

I see we're at the faithless elector part of this list with the angry Republicans still searching for a win.

[beanman12345]

Prohibit and replace. As in, if they vote against their constituency, they get replaced.

this is right.

[Kellhound]

It’s hard, because Trump never had the majority. He lost the popular vote twice. The GOP had a message representing the majority, one time in the last 30+ years. How do you win with a message for a minority? By demonizing the majority as satan worshippers, eating children?

Neither of his opponents had a message that the majority of Americans decided to vote for (then again, I'm not sure anyone ever has).

[Felya]

this is right.

I like to point how absolutely fucked up this strategy is...

[Rhlor]

I hope that now that Joe is president Puerto Rico can be a state

[Kellhound]

The precedent was set July 6, 2020. Keep up.

State faithless elector laws constitutional........