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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    If I'm wrong then point to a single scientific explanation that has graduated from a conjecture or a theory and turned itself into a proof.
    The Earth being round, for one.
    Magnetism.
    Flying.
    Propulsion.
    Boiling water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Gotta figure out what Manchin wants. Then leverage that in a $15min wage bill.
    Legend Has It, there's a guy called the "Amendment King". The Amendment King doesnt really do regular bills, but allegedly has the record for attachment amendments to bills. ANd other magical powers.

    Maybe the Amendment King could give Manchin something special in exchange for passing the min wage increase?


    Maybe the Amendment King is just a fairy tale? Like a Vunter Slaush, but for Brocialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    I know it crazy he didn't represent the majority beliefs of most Americans on subjects like illegal immigration, critical race theory, green new deal, and defending police.
    In that he wasted tons of money on a fence that he claimed was a wall that never got built anyway, in that he's a white supremacist, in that he's a climate change denier, and in that he defended abusive and murderous cops, just because they were cops.

    That you think his stances on any of those four were in any way anything but idiotic and/or bigoted is ridiculous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Failing to see how this is a contradiction since fixing the problems with society has fuck all to do with whether or not immigration should be allowed.
    It makes a difference on if it should be encouraged. It certainly doesn't fix any of the problems.

    And no, I'm not going to get dragged into the nonsense hypothetical "well if you HAD to choose between the two, which would you?" you'll probably reply with because they aren't mutually exclusive in reality so there's no reason to entertain it in theory.
    Between two what? I'm quite confused at which right-wing argument you seem to be expecting here.

    Between fixing problems with society and allowing illegal immigration?

    If you think immigrants are necessary then why not promote more work visas and legal pathways to citizenship that give them place where they are actually needed rather then encourage illegal immigration specifically and hope "invisible hand" will get them somewhere nice(r)?

    That would use same pathways as "fixing society" and create clear routes to success immigrants could follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    In that he wasted tons of money on a fence that he claimed was a wall that never got built anyway, in that he's a white supremacist, in that he's a climate change denier, and in that he defended abusive and murderous cops, just because they were cops.

    That you think his stances on any of those four were in any way anything but idiotic and/or bigoted is ridiculous.
    Now now now, I think you're giving Trump too much credit, in that your assigning him a code of morality, no matter how twisted that code of morality may be.

    I submit that Trump has no morals. Period. He "supported" the things he did because they were the perfect crux of things his followers wanted to hear, things that were easy to boil down into nonspecific soundbites, and things that he'd never actually have to get off his ass to do anything about. He could jabber on about any little thing they'd want to hear, and as long as he blamed the democrats or socialists or Antifa or whomever for stopping those things from happening, he could sit back and install family members in places of power and think of ways to siphon money from the situation.

    With Trump we weren't dealing with someone with antiquated moral codes. He had no long-term race goals in mind. He didn't care about cops or who they brutalized or whether they were getting enough funding. He didn't care about climate change. It should be quite obvious that he didn't care about the pandemic. No, with Trump we were dealing with someone who believed in absolutely nothing but enriching himself and was absolutely willing to profit off of pandering to the people who were racist, science deniers, etc, etc while he simply passed the responsibility of things happening or not happening on to someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    The Earth being round, for one.
    Magnetism.
    Flying.
    Propulsion.
    Boiling water.
    No that's misunderstanding of what I said but I sent you a PM that says why that is the case. That way we don't get infracted for going on a tangent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It’s a “high priority”... not “high priority to be included in this stimulus”... I’m a cup half full kind of guy, but I wouldn’t fault people for having issues with this.
    So never happening, got it.

    Go to know America will continue being a third world shit hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    Anyone else notice how Biden is now incapable of putting a sentence together? His dementia has progressed so rapidly over the past month, he might not make it through the year.
    He speaks better than cofveve, er I mean Yo-semite, I mean bigly... yeah you get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    He speaks better than cofveve, er I mean Yo-semite, I mean bigly... yeah you get the idea.
    That's just the way he speaks, completely different than what going on with Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    Anyone else notice how Biden is now incapable of putting a sentence together? His dementia has progressed so rapidly over the past month, he might not make it through the year.
    Oh sweetie, this was a pitiful T attempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    In that he wasted tons of money on a fence that he claimed was a wall that never got built anyway, in that he's a white supremacist, in that he's a climate change denier, and in that he defended abusive and murderous cops, just because they were cops.

    That you think his stances on any of those four were in any way anything but idiotic and/or bigoted is ridiculous.
    Fence was probably a bad idea, saying he is a white supremacist is just Democrats Politics.(See Romney when he ran, McCain, Bush, same Rhetoric.) He probably does deny Climate change, oh well. George Floyd died of Fentanyl, the cops will be acquitted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    That's just the way he speaks, completely different than what going on with Biden.
    Like a fucking moron making up words? Yes, we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    Fence was probably a bad idea, saying he is a white supremacist is just Democrats Politics.(See Romney when he ran, McCain, Bush, same Rhetoric.) He probably does deny Climate change, oh well. George Floyd died of Fentanyl, the cops will be acquitted.
    Nope, just a matter of fact that he is a white supremacist.

    And no, George Floyd did not die of fentanyl. You need to look at BOTH autopsies, because they BOTH said he died because of asphyxiation due to the compression of the neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    That's just the way he speaks, completely different than what going on with Biden.
    I agree Biden sounds much more civilized. Trump sounds like the local dunk unable to say "big" words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    I agree Biden sounds much more civilized. Trump sounds like the local dunk unable to say "big" words.
    Have you listened to him recently? He can't speak anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    Have you listened to him recently? He can't speak anymore.
    Sure thing bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Like a fucking moron making up words? Yes, we know.

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    Nope, just a matter of fact that he is a white supremacist.

    And no, George Floyd did not die of fentanyl. You need to look at BOTH autopsies, because they BOTH said he died because of asphyxiation due to the compression of the neck.
    Yea remember when Trump said:
    "integrating schools will create "a racial jungle"
    "You aint black if you vote republican"
    “You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
    “Unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly diverse attitudes about different things.”
    “In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

    Oh those were all Biden Quotes, sorry.

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    Rick Scott acknowledges Biden 'absolutely' won fair election

    I'm sure he'll be censured by the GOP or some other whine-fest for saying the Golden Idol is a loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    allowing illegal immigration
    No one's arguing for this. Stop strawmanning.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    That's just the way he speaks, completely different than what going on with Biden.
    Ah yes, Trump's grammar that can barely even be called just stringing random words together, is totally fine, but Biden stumbling on a word every 4 or 5 sentences is dementia. ROFLMAO Trump can't even finish a thought half the time, he starts going off on tangents and then he can't even finish his tangential thought before he starts devolving into talking about random things like how hot his daughter is. Trump is what real dementia looks like, Karen. My father had dementia. It looked almost exactly like Trump, not Biden. If you look at some of Trump's early interviews from the 80's and 90's you can see just how much he devolved once he got past 50 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    Have you listened to him recently? He can't speak anymore.
    You're right, I listened to little bits of Trump's CPAC... Errr... rambling mess, and he's lost even more of his ability to string together words since his last public appearance.

    No wonder he's stayed hidden for a few months, his multiple small strokes, and coronavirus infection look like they're deteriorating his speech abilities.

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