Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/plaint...ke-my-name-off

Reminder: Don't trust Republicans.

Voter for Laura Loomer (lol) in FL was added on as a plaintiff to a lawsuit claiming election fraud. Lady had no idea she was on the lawsuit and wants the fuck off because she's seen no election fraud. How'd she get on? A fellow Loomer-voter told her to talk to a shady as fuck lawyer, who added her to the lawsuit without asking or telling her.

Just a reminder that the majority of the folks on the right seem to be fairly unethical, undisciplined grifters and liars.

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https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status...88802462261248

British media continuing to do a better job of trying to get Republicans to answer questions by simply repeating them each time the Republican gives a non-answer.

Why did Trump bring hundreds, or more, of classified documents back to his private residence, and maybe also Bedminster?

"It was a paperwork issue."

According to Jared Kushner who really doesn't want to talk about it.

I dunno, but I'm getting big, "Locker room talk" vibes on this one.

[YUPPIE]

I can guarantee that doesn't fucking happen. Trump has only lost support since January 6th.

Relative to the real world, the right-wing control the entirety of the internet. Everywhere you go, it's shilling Trump and the Republicans.

[Edge-]

Relative to the real world, the right-wing control the entirety of the internet. Everywhere you go, it's shilling Trump and the Republicans.

Citation needed*

[YUPPIE]

Citation needed*

what's left of /rdonald largely fragmented, mostly going over to /pol/, Youtube, Facebook.

Those are my cited places. And they're not insignificant but a great threat to projecting misinformation on social media.

[Breccia]

Relative to the real world--

Well, I guess that explains where you're posting from. Wake me when the internet gets a vote. Trump lost and is continuing to lose, get over it.

[Edge-]

what's left of /rdonald largely fragmented, mostly going over to /pol/, Youtube, Facebook.

Those are my cited places. And they're not insignificant but a great threat to projecting misinformation on social media.

So circles that were largely rabidly pro-Trump historically are still rabidly pro-Trump? That's wild, though I do hope you leave your echo chambers every once in a while.

In other news: https://twitter.com/lmresists/status...00820262375424

We don't deserve Al Franken.

For all the crying about CNN being "fAr LEfTIsT", their analyst goes on and tries to claim that what McConnell did to Merrick Garland was fine because "it's what's been done historically with a divided government."

Al Franken repeatedly asks for an example, she is left stumbling over her own words until she admits that the only actual historical example is...Merrick Garland.

Which this is just a reminder about how Roberts and the Republican parties partisan bullshit destroyed the legitimacy of the SCOTUS.

[Endus]

So circles that were largely rabidly pro-Trump historically are still rabidly pro-Trump? That's wild, though I do hope you leave your echo chambers every once in a while.

In other news: https://twitter.com/lmresists/status...00820262375424

We don't deserve Al Franken.

For all the crying about CNN being "fAr LEfTIsT", their analyst goes on and tries to claim that what McConnell did to Merrick Garland was fine because "it's what's been done historically with a divided government."

Al Franken repeatedly asks for an example, she is left stumbling over her own words until she admits that the only actual historical example is...Merrick Garland.

Which this is just a reminder about how Roberts and the Republican parties partisan bullshit destroyed the legitimacy of the SCOTUS.

In a reasonable world, shit like that would get Alice Stewart fucking fired and disgraced. And it shouldn't be Franken's job to call her to account for pushing bullshit propaganda like that, it should've been the host. Jim Acosta is fucking up royally by letting her spread shit like that on his show. That, or he's complicit.

[Milchshake]

HAs the press figured out what Trump is doing in DC current?
Did he go to Red Lobster with Maggie Haberman?
Did he go to the CNN office to have John Licht kiss ass?

[Edge-]

HAs the press figured out what Trump is doing in DC current?

News media are picking up on the online theorizing and reporting it, many, many, many hours after the pictures/video went public.

We're their content for SEO editorial managers.

[Milchshake]

News media are picking up on the online theorizing and reporting it, many, many, many hours after the pictures/video went public.

We're their content for SEO editorial managers.

To be fair, only half of the DC press is waiting for their bosses approval.

The other half are saving as an exclusive for their upcoming book.

[Breccia]

HAs the press figured out what Trump is doing in DC current?

No, and the lack of information suggests it wasn't a big deal. If Trump was arrested, his kids would be screaming for a second murderous insurrection by now.

[Edge-]

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-worki...arrest-1742184

So Trump apparently went to DC to "work" at his DC golf course. Which would explain the attire and all, and the local leo showing up as escort.

Darn, who could have guessed Twitter hyperbole wouldn't be remotely accurate.

[Breccia]

Once again, the cultists Trump has drawn to his party.

A Texas woman has been charged with threatening to kill the federal judge presiding over a dispute between Trump and the Department of Justice about records seized in an FBI raid of Trump’s home last month.

An FBI special agent said Tiffani Shea Gish of Houston left three threatening voicemails for the chamber telephone of Judge Aileen Cannon of U.S. District Court in southern Florida, according to a criminal complaint filed Sept. 6.

Identifying herself as the fictional Russian agent Evelyn Salt, Gish claimed to be “in charge of nuclear” for the government, a federal agent and “Trump’s hitman” who had a “license to kill,” according to transcribed excerpts of the calls included in the complaint.

Gish’s pseudonym is the same name as the protagonist played by Angelina Jolie in the 2010 action film Salt.

Trump is “marked for assassination and so are you,” Gish said in--

"Whoa whoa whoa! Why would Trump's hit man mark Trump for execution?"

Please, stop trying to put logic and reason into Trump supporters.

Trump is “marked for assassination and so are you,” Gish said in the expletive-filled messages, the complaint showed. “You’re full of shit, and I’m going to fucking have you shot myself. I’ve already ordered snipers and a bomb to your fucking house,” Gish allegedly said in the voicemails, all of which were made on Sept. 1.

When agents came to her residence on Sept. 4, Gish would initially only speak through a balcony window, but eventually invited the agents in and spoke with them for about 45 minutes

I swear, I'm not making that up.

the complaint said. Gish in that interview said she left the voicemails from her cellphone, and also confirmed that a Facebook account with posts echoing the language of the voicemails belonged to her, according to the complaint.

Gish was charged in U.S. District Court in Houston with one count of influencing a federal official by threat and one count of interstate communications with a threat to kidnap or injure.

Magistrate Judge Peter Bray on Friday ordered Gish detained pending trial, saying she “appears to suffer from severe mental impairments with symptoms including paranoia and delusions.”

"OMG, gee, what was your first clue that she was insane?"

Her name is "Tiffani" with an i.

A federal prosecutor had asked for a competency examination of Gish, writing in a court filing that her “past conduct shows delusional conduct where she claimed to be a CIA agent, a Navy SEAL, an Army Ranger, and someone familiar with nuclear weapons or war, all while intermixing threats to public officials such as Former President Donald Trump or former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.”

"Whoa whoa and again whoa! If she's threatening both sides here, how do we know she's a Trump supporter?

Well, she's insane. Based on what we've heard in court so far, that's Trump's camp.

Also, I decided, on a whim, to wander over to her facebook page and...this.

WE HAVE 100,000 SNIPERS IN THE AREA
TRUMP IS IN FACT PRESIDENT
CROOKS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE ANYWAY
SHEA IS OUR STAR AGENT IN THIS

And this

BUT SHEA IS ACTUALLY A FEDERAL AGENT AND WORKS FOR THE CIA, TRUMP, PUTIN AND OUR TRUE COVERT TEAM WHO ARE IN FACT METALLICA, KEANU, DAVID WHO ALSO IS A FEDERAL AGENT, KEVIN JAMES AND MELISSA MCCARTHY
ZUCKERBERG IS HEAD OVER OUR TEAM.
SURPRISE FUCKNUTS
YOU WILL ALL BE SHOT AT MINIMUM

-- both Oct 2017

So, yeah. Insane + all caps = Trump supporter until proven otherwise. I have to admit, however, I'd not only 100% believe Keanu was a CIA hitman, but also, I would pay $100 to see him jam with Metallica.

[Edge-]

Identifying herself as the fictional Russian agent Evelyn Salt, Gish claimed to be “in charge of nuclear” for the government, a federal agent and “Trump’s hitman” who had a “license to kill,” according to transcribed excerpts of the calls included in the complaint.

Seriously, for how much they hate Hollywood and all, these people all think their the stars of some wild action/spy movies and shit.

WE HAVE 100,000 SNIPERS IN THE AREA

Big disappointed we didn't get the navy seal copypasta outta her. Daughter, I am disappoint.

[Breccia]

Seriously, for how much they hate Hollywood and all, these people all think their the stars of some wild action/spy movies and shit.

I mean, Trump did say he'd run into a school shooting. That perfectly matches your theory.

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So Trump apparently went to DC to "work" at his DC golf course.

https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2022/0...lub-on-monday/

[Paranoid Android]

Former President Donald Trump repeatedly told aides in the days following his 2020 election loss that he would remain in the White House rather than let incoming President Joe Biden take over, according to reporting provided to CNN from a forthcoming book by New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman.

“I’m just not going to leave,” Trump told one aide, according to Haberman.

“We’re never leaving,” Trump told another. “How can you leave when you won an election?”

Trump’s insistence that he would not be leaving the White House, which has not been previously reported, adds new detail to the chaotic post-election period in which Trump’s refusal to accept his defeat and numerous efforts to overturn the election result led to the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol by pro-Trump rioters.

I know this story should be about him being an insurrectionist, traitor. Yet, I love this story and imagine more of a story of Trump like a toddler having a fit in the toy store not wanting to leave.

[Edge-]

What other details relevant to the security of our democracy and the threat that Donald Trump and Republicans pose to it are DC media sitting on because it'll really help their book sales, I wonder?

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https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...eorgia-senate/

Esquire, pointing out the absurdity of Republicans running for political office as "not a politician".

I mean, would you hire an electrician to do your plumbing work? A mechanic to repaint your house? A pipefitter to do landscaping? Then why elect someone with no interest in being a politician to...be a politician?

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/12/polit...ses/index.html

Unsurprisingly, Trump objects to the DoJ's proposed special masters.

"Plaintiff objects to the proposed nominees of the Department of Justice. Plaintiff believes there are specific reasons why those nominees are not preferred for service as Special Master in this case," the Trump lawyers wrote.

What are these specific reasons? Your guess is as good as mine, Trump's lawyers didn't bother elaborating. But there's sorta a reason -

"Plaintiff also submits it is more respectful to the candidates from either party to withhold the bases for opposition from a public, and likely to be widely circulated, pleading," Trump's lawyers wrote. "Therefore, Plaintiff asks this Court for permission to specifically express our objections to the Government's nominees only at such time that the Court specifies a desire to obtain and consider that information."

"They didn't ask" is a valid reason I guess.

[postman1782]

Minor correction, but the issue is solely the process issue of not instructing the taint team to look for documents potentially protected by executive privilege.

And by "assertions of executive privilege survive leaving the office," I mean "it is wrong to say leaving the office takes away his ability to assert them under the law (because his leaving office removes them)." I linked the relevant case law in earlier posts.

His capacity to assert and potentially win in court ("survives the office") necessitates a court case to overrule it. Not the DoJ deciding, in its wisdom, that it'll disregard Supreme Court precedent.

Definitely enough repetition on this one. I only wonder if you think the Supreme Court didn't write the opinion, or Supreme Court opinions do not matter, or you don't think Nixon was president (in order to be an ex-president), or if you don't think Nixon ever left office (in which case, he can't have been party to a lawsuit as an ex-president, since he was current president until death).

His capacity to assert it over documents survives leaving the office. It is up to the courts to determine whether or not particular documents are subject to it, or higher concerns overrule actual executive privilege, not the DoJ.

The Supreme Court, in Nixon vs GSA, found that ex-presidents still retained executive privilege. They reasoned that it was for the same reasons executive privilege exists in the first place. They even wrote on intricacies surrounding retained executive privilege, after they stated it exists.

You can claim it all you fucking want, but you are FUCKING WRONG. It isn't his property, it is the governments property. He CAN'T CLAIM executive privilege.

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Relative to the real world, the right-wing control the entirety of the internet. Everywhere you go, it's shilling Trump and the Republicans.

Fucking prove it.

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HAs the press figured out what Trump is doing in DC current?
Did he go to Red Lobster with Maggie Haberman?
Did he go to the CNN office to have John Licht kiss ass?

From what I can gather from people on Twitter, he claimed he was "working" and golfing in DC. Problem is, it is raining pretty heavily in DC today.

But there is this:

Problem is, they are all in golf attire, but not wearing golf cleats, nor do they have any golf clubs on any of the carts they are driving around.

The reported people with him, are Sean Hannity, Devin Nunes, Eric Trump, and others that haven't been identified.

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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-worki...arrest-1742184

So Trump apparently went to DC to "work" at his DC golf course. Which would explain the attire and all, and the local leo showing up as escort.

Darn, who could have guessed Twitter hyperbole wouldn't be remotely accurate.

But what is weird, he is in golf attire, but no golf cleats and no clubs. They are fake golfing, while it was raining in DC today.

[Gorsameth]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/plaint...ke-my-name-off

Reminder: Don't trust Republicans.

Voter for Laura Loomer (lol) in FL was added on as a plaintiff to a lawsuit claiming election fraud. Lady had no idea she was on the lawsuit and wants the fuck off because she's seen no election fraud. How'd she get on? A fellow Loomer-voter told her to talk to a shady as fuck lawyer, who added her to the lawsuit without asking or telling her.

Just a reminder that the majority of the folks on the right seem to be fairly unethical, undisciplined grifters and liars.

That's another lawyer in need of a lawyer? Because I hope adding someone to a lawsuit without their consent is an ethics violation.

[postman1782]

This is how business is done when you only want certain people making plans with you and nobody else to overhear you.

Yeah, its mob type of behavior, he thinks his clubs are bugged. Which at this time, I hope they all are.