SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Specialka]

Well they can have sex too and practice safe sex and not get pregnant. Between BC, spermacide, condoms, and even pulling out the chances are practically zero.

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Because killing another uman being is objectively wrong....

Especially if you consented in the act of procreation in the first place

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Well it's a gamble. If you have protected sex but still somehow get pregnant it's still a gamble that your're taking and if you lose then you need to own up to it just like everything else in life.

The issue here is that you have no idea about the effects a pregnancy can have on a women or even a couple, so even more for an unwanted pregnancy. It has a lot of physical and psychological effects (good and bad).

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Government should have nothing to do with marriage. The only reason marriage laws ever existed is to tell people who they cannot marry. Any perks of marriage are pretty useless anyway. Spousal privilege? Next of kin? Married filing jointly? Insurance coverage? Could all be reworked to work for anyone.

Nope, do not spout that kind of nonsense about "The only reason marriage laws ever existed is to tell people who they cannot marry".

[Varx]

The issue here is that you have no idea about the effects a pregnancy can have on a women or even a couple, so even more for an unwanted pregnancy. It has a lot of physical and psychological effects (good and bad).

Then if you're not psychologically ready to have a baby then perhaps don't have sex? If it's a risk you can't afford.

Physically speaking, a woman's body is biological made to endure the process of pregnancy and birth. So that ain't an issue.

Now if there's a complication then obviously termination is acceptable.

But if the pregnancy is completely normal from beginning to end then there's no excuse.

[Endus]

Then if you're not psychology ready to have a baby then perhaps don't have sex? If it's a risk you can't afford.

This stops being even a possibly valid argument the moment safe abortion techniques exist. Which they have, for decades now.

Physically speaking, a woman's body is biological made to endure the process of pregnancy and birth. So that ain't an issue.

That's just a lie. Pregnancy carries significant health risks.

Now if there's a complication then obviously termination is acceptable.

Right there's where you admit even you don't actually believe the fetus is a human being with the full rights thereof. If you allow for exceptions when it comes to rape, life of the mother, or the like, it's never been about human life; that's just your dishonest cover story so you don't have to admit your true motives.

But if the pregnancy is completely normal from beginning to end then there's no excuse.

There's no need for an "excuse", in the first place. "I don't want it" is all you need.

[Shadowferal]

Because killing another uman being is objectively wrong....

So you admit, that telling a woman what she can do is exactly what you want.
You must wonder why you're relegated in the radical right wing minority of the gop...and why they're running from the likes of you.

[Varx]

So you admit, that telling a woman what she can do is exactly what you want.
You must wonder why you're relegated in the radical right wing minority of the gop...and why they're running from the likes of you.

Um sure, when it specifically comes to an infant's life if you're so desperate to put me in an evil misogynistic box

[Specialka]

Then if you're not psychologically ready to have a baby then perhaps don't have sex? If it's a risk you can't afford.

Physically speaking, a woman's body is biological made to endure the process of pregnancy and birth. So that ain't an issue.

Now if there's a complication then obviously termination is acceptable.

But if the pregnancy is completely normal from beginning to end then there's no excuse.

I get your argument but they are outdated. We are not living in the 17th century anymore. You have to live with your time.

So you would say to not do an abortion to a 15 year old girl ? Knowing she will probably never go to college and such ? Knowing she will live a "miserable" life ?

[Shadowferal]

Um sure, when it specifically comes to an infant's life if you're so desperate to put me in an evil misogynistic box

But it's not an infant. It's not even a fetus.
And you willingly put yourself in a misogynistic box. Because that's what you already are...where all the other right-wing zealots are.

[Edge-]

Then if you're not psychologically ready to have a baby then perhaps don't have sex? If it's a risk you can't afford.

"Don't do anything that has any risk associated with it." isn't a strong argument. We'd never get out of bed, because doing so would risk an accident and injury.

Physically speaking

That's irrelevant.

But if the pregnancy is completely normal from beginning to end then there's no excuse.

Unless the parents aren't ready to bring a child into this world and care for it.

Until we have actually functional adoption services that are funded properly and can care for children, this is basically stanning for child abuse. This is you being the people showing up to anti-choice rallies holding a, "I WILL ADOPT YOUR BABY!" sign and then when asked, saying that they just can't actually afford to adopt any children.

[Varx]

This stops being even a possibly valid argument the moment safe abortion techniques exist. Which they have, for decades now.



That's just a lie. Pregnancy carries significant health risks.



Right there's where you admit even you don't actually believe the fetus is a human being with the full rights thereof. If you allow for exceptions when it comes to rape, life of the mother, or the like, it's never been about human life; that's just your dishonest cover story so you don't have to admit your true motives.



There's no need for an "excuse", in the first place. "I don't want it" is all you need.

There's no such thing as a safe abortion technique when it results in the death of a baby.

Pregnancy is a complicated process yes, which means complications are common. But pregnancy generally speaking from a healthy standpoint is completely normal.

Um no, an extreme is an extreme, not a rule. Don't put words in my mouth.

"I want to kill someone because" is an acceptable reason to commit murder? Of course not.

But the reverse applies in this scenario because "my body". That's just an excuse radical feminists spew because of lack healthy values and not wanting to adhere to the consequences of your actions.

[Unholyground]

I like that people make this huge deal about abortion but animals of many species in the wild can self abort when the environment cannot sustain the offspring.

[Varx]

I get your argument but they are outdated. We are not living in the 17th century anymore. You have to live with your time.

So you would say to not do an abortion to a 15 year old girl ? Knowing she will probably never go to college and such ? Knowing she will live a "miserable" life ?

She can easily put her baby for adoption. And yes I know the adoption process ain't perfect but that's not a justification to not give a baby a chance in life.

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But it's not an infant. It's not even a fetus.
And you willingly put yourself in a misogynistic box. Because that's what you already are...where all the other right-wing zealots are.

Whether is a zygote, embryo, baby. It's all a human. Different stages of human life is still. A human.

The day fertilized eggs turns into a carrot then come back to me

[Specialka]

She can easily put her baby for adoption. And yes I know the adoption process ain't perfect but that's not a justification to not give a baby a chance in life.

Giving birth after an unwanted pregnancy is not easy, don't you get it ? It is called a "trauma". You are kinda devoid of empathy, aren't you ?

[Edge-]

There's no such thing as a safe abortion technique when it results in the death of a baby.

A fetus is not a baby. That's simple facts.

But pregnancy generally speaking from a healthy standpoint is completely normal.

This depends on your income, race, and where you live in America. Because many places in America, especially for women of color, have serious complications or maternal mortality at rates we see in third world nations, not developed nations. America needs to start caring about the health of women that want to have babies first.

"I want to kill someone because" is an acceptable reason to commit murder? Of course not.

Because this is only a standard you are holding and it's not a standard anyone else views as reasonable given our knowledge of the development of an embryo.

But the reverse applies in this scenario because "my body".

Yes, their body.

That's just an excuse radical feminists spew because of lack healthy values

Feminists aren't trying to force 10 year old girls to carry a pregnancy to term.

[Varx]

"Don't do anything that has any risk associated with it." isn't a strong argument. We'd never get out of bed, because doing so would risk an accident and injury.



That's irrelevant.



Unless the parents aren't ready to bring a child into this world and care for it.

Until we have actually functional adoption services that are funded properly and can care for children, this is basically stanning for child abuse. This is you being the people showing up to anti-choice rallies holding a, "I WILL ADOPT YOUR BABY!" sign and then when asked, saying that they just can't actually afford to adopt any children.

Not having perfect adoption processes is a shit excuse to deny a baby a chance in life.

[Shadowferal]

Whether is a zygote, embryo, baby. It's all a human. Different stages of human life is still. A human.

...get back to me when your...ilk isn't running away from your own opinion.

[Varx]

A fetus is not a baby. That's simple facts.



This depends on your income, race, and where you live in America. Because many places in America, especially for women of color, have serious complications or maternal mortality at rates we see in third world nations, not developed nations. America needs to start caring about the health of women that want to have babies first.



Because this is only a standard you are holding and it's not a standard anyone else views as reasonable given our knowledge of the development of an embryo.



Yes, their body.



Feminists aren't trying to force 10 year old girls to carry a pregnancy to term.

Wow, and a child isn't an adult. But they're both still human right?

You're just trying to find justification in murder because you convince your self that a fetus somehow isn't human. Again will a fetus ever turn into a carrot?

And a 10 year raped into pregnancy would most like fall into the extreme exception I keep sayjng

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...get back to me when your...ilk isn't running away from your own opinion.

This is where pro choicers fall apart.this right here...

The moment the "an embryo isn't human" argument is finally proven wrong is where pro choice will finally die.

It's insane that lefties still hang in to that. It's so weak yet so reliant due to humans inate desire for an easy escape from responsibility

[Shadowferal]

And a 10 year raped into pregnancy would most like fall into the extreme exception I keep sayjng

"Most like?"
You really are hateful...

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This is where pro choicers fall apart.this right here... The moment this argument is finally proven wrong is where pro choice will finally die.

Try again...after all where have you been all this time?

[Varx]

Giving birth after an unwanted pregnancy is not easy, don't you get it ? It is called a "trauma". You are kinda devoid of empathy, aren't you ?

I'm empathetic when it's warrented an deserved.

A 15 year old engaging in consensual sex and getting nocked up because they were in the heat of the moment doesn't deserve my empathy.

If they care so much about their havard application then maybe don't make stupid decisions?

[Katchii]

She can easily put her baby for adoption. And yes I know the adoption process ain't perfect but that's not a justification to not give a baby a chance in life.

The fact that you even say this with a straight face means you are so far disconnected from reality as to not be taken remotely seriously.

"ain't perfect".....JFC

[Varx]

"Most like?"
You really are hateful...

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Try again...after all where have you been all this time?

I don't need to try again. It's the truth. That's all that's keeping pro choice alive. The believe that an embryo ain't human.

The moment SCOTUS realizes an embryo will never turn into a toaster is when they'll abolish abortion across the states.