"Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."
"I'm a Brazilian named Viktor Muller Ferreira and I like trance music"
Are they running out of EVERYTHING there? (Including good cover stories.)
first of all, the nukes are a real threat at this point (although they've always been) for their leverage/blackmail is concerned. If they didn't have them, they wouldn't exist. It's also why they can hold food (the grain) as hostage to the entire world as it is now, which goes way past just their militaristic agendas and rampaging in Ukraine.
secondly, as far as non-nuke concerns go, maybe not a NATO country if you really want to go that route, but they've threatened invasions on a plethora of non-NATO nations the last few months. Also they keep threatening Poland on loop.
People take what Russia may say seriously because it's not a case of talking or bluffing in their ground invasions, as they've already raped and murdered thousands in Ukraine to show they're serious. Regardless of their losses and incompetence or if they get blown to smithereens trying another invasion, even without considering nukes, no nation wants to lose thousands of civilians and have their cities turned to dust like Ukraine before Russians get repelled.
Last edited by YUPPIE; 2022-06-16 at 04:11 PM.
"Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
I don't like the notion of diplomacy and business resuming as usual if Russia simply leaves Ukraine in a mundane way.
They HAVE to pay for everything they've done for the next 50 years or so, maybe even a hundred or more. You don't murder thousands and decimate whole cities in modern times and just resume the status quo if you lose your warmongering gambit.
Last edited by YUPPIE; 2022-06-16 at 06:32 PM.
"Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."
they decimated entire cities and raped and murdered their way through swathes of civilians. If Russia can come back from this in no time as you claim, that's a sign anyone can do that and get off the hook if they surrender at some point. Even if you see it as vengeful to sanction them to regress into a third world country, you don't just do what they've done and get a slap on the wrist.
but Joe Biden has promised Russia will assuredly be a pariah state, at least
Last edited by YUPPIE; 2022-06-16 at 08:24 PM.
"Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."
We let countries off the hook all the time for this kind of shit. Or if they're on the correct side supply them and look the other way. Case and point Saudi Arabia in Yemen is basically doing everything Russia is doing in Ukraine with a decade's worth of experience. African nations who are warring each other or have civil wars are also doing similar actions.
International politics gives zero crap about morals.
"Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."
"Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."
"Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."
well, that's wrong and evil as well. That's what enables imperialist cunts like Putin to do as they please and then before you know it, he's on your doorstep.
Also the way you phrase that makes it seem like this Ukraine crisis isn't a *huge* tragedy where thousands are being raped and killed by the day but merely a novel flavor of the year spectacle for the West. And more importantly, it means those billions in dollars being invested into Ukraine by America is not a big deal either.
Last edited by YUPPIE; 2022-06-16 at 10:11 PM.
"Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."