Stormblood MSQ Discussion (THERE ARE SPOILERS IN HERE)

[Kazgrel]

Lyse's awkwardness in so many situations, while possibly grating, also made all the sense in the world. She no longer has Papalymo to hide behind as the assertive leader/intellectual type, so she ends up thrust into a leadership role that's completely foreign to her. I think it leaves great opportunity for further character development...or they could use the whole "I'm gonna stay in Ala Mhigo and help rebuild" thing as a means to write her out of the story (without simply killing her off).

One thing I haven't liked, at least through the SB story: all of what, 2 named characters on our side end up dead? As much as I like Gosetsu, him not being dead actually disappointed me...but came as zero surprise since the whole "you never saw the bodies" schtick strikes again.

[Eleccybubb]

Just done Ala Mhigo. Loved the Guard Scorpion first boss but personally Zenos felt a bit underwhelming. I mean yeah it is a story dungeon but was hoping for a bit more oomph from the fight.

[Remilia]

Just done Ala Mhigo. Loved the Guard Scorpion first boss but personally Zenos felt a bit underwhelming. I mean yeah it is a story dungeon but was hoping for a bit more oomph from the fight.

More oomph when one of your dps's gear was broken (yeah that happened).

[Faroth]

Lyse's awkwardness in so many situations, while possibly grating, also made all the sense in the world. She no longer has Papalymo to hide behind as the assertive leader/intellectual type, so she ends up thrust into a leadership role that's completely foreign to her. I think it leaves great opportunity for further character development...or they could use the whole "I'm gonna stay in Ala Mhigo and help rebuild" thing as a means to write her out of the story (without simply killing her off).

One thing I haven't liked, at least through the SB story: all of what, 2 named characters on our side end up dead? As much as I like Gosetsu, him not being dead actually disappointed me...but came as zero surprise since the whole "you never saw the bodies" schtick strikes again.

I was disappointed too, mainly because it was a good death for him as a samurai in particular. However, since he DID survive, I like that he isn't thrilled about it. It seems like he was okay with his death, he accepted it, and that he survived seems almost an insult, but also accepting "the kami aren't through with me yet." That Yosetsu (edit correction: YOTSUYU... brain was not awake) lives as well makes it at least potentially interesting down the line.

I am a bit surprised we didn't lose someone more than Kemp & our last Quarrymill notable.

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Just done Ala Mhigo. Loved the Guard Scorpion first boss but personally Zenos felt a bit underwhelming. I mean yeah it is a story dungeon but was hoping for a bit more oomph from the fight.

It had a fair bit of oomph to me.. but you need everyone in their AF gear and no clue what's going on for any of that oomph. If you got in when people were in Ala Mhigan gear and it was their roulette run, you had a different experience.

We got hit by stacked Way of the Sword hits my first try. They HURT if you do that. XD

[Kazgrel]

I was disappointed too, mainly because it was a good death for him as a samurai in particular. However, since he DID survive, I like that he isn't thrilled about it. It seems like he was okay with his death, he accepted it, and that he survived seems almost an insult, but also accepting "the kami aren't through with me yet." That Yosetsu lives as well makes it at least potentially interesting down the line.

I am a bit surprised we didn't lose someone more than Kemp & our last Quarrymill notable.

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It had a fair bit of oomph to me.. but you need everyone in their AF gear and no clue what's going on for any of that oomph. If you got in when people were in Ala Mhigan gear and it was their roulette run, you had a different experience.

We got hit by stacked Way of the Sword hits my first try. They HURT if you do that. XD

"Yosetsu" sounds like the lovechild of those two stranded on the island. To call that a case of strange bedfellows would be an understatement. Then again, Gosetsu didn't mind being "in chains" once again...then the head stepping scene...

Hmm. *runs away*

[Faroth]

"Yosetsu" sounds like the lovechild of those two stranded on the island. To call that a case of strange bedfellows would be an understatement. Then again, Gosetsu didn't mind being "in chains" once again...then the head stepping scene...

Hmm. *runs away*

LOL, Yotsuyu.... I've been on vacation last week and my brain isn't appreciating the return to being awake in the morning, hence the mix up. XD

[Kazgrel]

LOL, Yotsuyu.... I've been on vacation last week and my brain isn't appreciating the return to being awake in the morning, hence the mix up. XD

Excuses, excuses...I was on vacation also and you don't see me coming up with lovechild name bastardizations like that!

Course, I would decide to run with the idea, so I guess you can take the player off of Balmung, but you can't take Balmung off the player.

[Faroth]

Excuses, excuses...I was on vacation also and you don't see me coming up with lovechild name bastardizations like that!

Course, I would decide to run with the idea, so I guess you can take the player off of Balmung, but you can't take Balmung off the player.

L...lewd! o-o;

[Aruhen]

Have any of you seen those theories that the white dood is possibly Gaius? Super interesting and makes sense considering the Emperors reaction at the end.

[Kazgrel]

Have any of you seen those theories that the white dood is possibly Gaius? Super interesting and makes sense considering the Emperors reaction at the end.

I have not, but I am intrigued by what could possibly elicit such a response from Varis. My initial reaction was that Elidibus had managed to clone the face of Zenos or something to that effect.

[Eleccybubb]

Estinien. The only character who knew what the fuck to do with the eyes. Which is what we should have damn well done after 3.3.

[lawow74]

Estinien. The only character who knew what the fuck to do with the eyes. Which is what we should have damn well done after 3.3.

Considering all they put him through, I think he deserved his moment of 'fuck you Nidhogg' before ending them. Going forward I want to see the Ishgardians remain part of it all, not just end up alone and forgotten the way so many story characters do when their content is no longer relevant in games like this.

[Kazgrel]

Considering all they put him through, I think he deserved his moment of 'fuck you Nidhogg' before ending them. Going forward I want to see the Ishgardians remain part of it all, not just end up alone and forgotten the way so many story characters do when their content is no longer relevant in games like this.

Yet Aymeric and Lucia were little more than a cameo appearance towards the end. I suppose same could be said of the Admiral and Kan-E-Senna as well. "We're here for our 15 minutes of fame, lol".

[Manabomb]

Estinien. The only character who knew what the fuck to do with the eyes. Which is what we should have damn well done after 3.3.

I think it had something to do with the eyes containing too much aether, even after the wyrms defeat at the Final Steps of Faith. Estinien notes that "Used all of your aether powering that beast? You won't be causing too much trouble anymore". Paraphrasing here, because I can't remember the exact dialogue from when he decided to pop the eyes.

I think its crazy that the eyes had enough power to cause Thordan, Nidhoggs rebirth/fusing with Estinien and Shinryu before being exhausted.

[Remilia]

He said something along the line that due to being used to summon them that all the aether was used up and he couldn't feel any of it whatsoever.
Right before destroying it said that even though the eyes are useless now hes destroying them just in case. Also said bye Nidhogg.

[The Offbeat]

Have any of you seen those theories that the white dood is possibly Gaius? Super interesting and makes sense considering the Emperors reaction at the end.

3-4 lalafell standing on top of one another.

[Remilia]

3-4 lalafell standing on top of one another.

^
That would've warranted the surprised face.

[lawow74]

Yet Aymeric and Lucia were little more than a cameo appearance towards the end. I suppose same could be said of the Admiral and Kan-E-Senna as well. "We're here for our 15 minutes of fame, lol".

They were included, and that's what's important, even if they don't play a major role. WoW would always annoy me with leaving various story threads completely ignored cos 'lol old content who cares lol'.

I think its crazy that the eyes had enough power to cause Thordan, Nidhoggs rebirth/fusing with Estinien and Shinryu before being exhausted.

They didn't want the dragon eyes for nothing, you know. Just one powered Thordan. Both brought back Nidhogg, and with their sum total of power and the sacrifice of all the lives at Baelsar's Wall, you got Shinryu.

[Cattleya]

Lyse's awkwardness in so many situations, while possibly grating, also made all the sense in the world. She no longer has Papalymo to hide behind as the assertive leader/intellectual type, so she ends up thrust into a leadership role that's completely foreign to her. I think it leaves great opportunity for further character development...or they could use the whole "I'm gonna stay in Ala Mhigo and help rebuild" thing as a means to write her out of the story (without simply killing her off).

One thing I haven't liked, at least through the SB story: all of what, 2 named characters on our side end up dead? As much as I like Gosetsu, him not being dead actually disappointed me...but came as zero surprise since the whole "you never saw the bodies" schtick strikes again.

2 would've been more than enough if they weren't D-tier characters. It feels like they wanted you to be sad about Kemp's death but c'mon, I barely knew the guy.
That said, I'm sure someone will die in the patches leading up to 5.0

[Veluren]

Estinien going "I mean maybe but- no" and destroying the eyes felt like Square's sorta "We're sorry for this glaring plot hole we needed to leave" over disposing of them the first time, tossing them over the bridge was sorta a dumb way to get rid of them, even though it is better explained how freakishly hard it is for a mortal to survive in the sea of clouds and nobody considered the Ascians/Warriors of Darkness coming into play