SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Twdft]

If you engage in sex you know that there's a chance for contraceptives to fail. So if ur not prepared for that then it's your fault not the baby's

I don't understand how anyone "pro-life" can support contraceptives. If you are anti abortion after the sex, how the hell can you be fine with trying to avoid pregnancies in the first place?

[Attackrabbit]

Look I'm driving and have the entire thread responding to me so kinda hard to keep track

'I care about lives' he says whilst also apparently driving and reading / responding to an internet forum :s

[Dontrike]

Just dropping by to remind you guys that a fetus is a human being with a right to life and not a carrot or a Mercedes Benz. No one has the right to murder and there are a plethora of alternatives to abortion. A non perfect system is better than a zero chance at life.

That word right there is the complete problem with your argument. If a fetus absorbs another in the womb, by your definition, the fetus has committed a murder, and therefore when it is born you should want it tried for manslaughter.

Problem is, even though you think a fetus is human, you have given this human the okay to kill in your mind and don't find the killed fetus a human to weep for.

Untill next time! You're friendly neighborhood agnostic pro gay rights conservative.

No one believes you.

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Because Gen z is starting to vote and they're plagued by leftist social media.

It's like you can hear them opening up their wallet to buy a red hat.

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I used to be too.

But once you start seeing shitty patterns with people your perspective changes and makes you think differently

And you wonder why people l, and colleges, reject conservative views, because they took saw shitty patterns amongst your ilk.

That's what happens when conservative policies are force 10 year olds to have their rape babies, control women, phobic to literally anyone that isn't white or straight, phobic to any religion that isn't Christian, and more just like it.

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But it's true, you don't think social media, In it's prevalence, is extreme influencing to impressionable youth?

Says the lady that definitely doesn't get all of their news from orange mouth pieces.

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I don't need to. It's clearly visible by anyone with a phone

AKA "I have nothing but emotional screeching."

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Because consent to sex is consent to pregnancy.r

That is maddeningly stupid. It's astounding you went so long with being wrong and thought to dig deeper for no reason.

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Thank you!!!

Look I know many politicians are corrupt but this ain't handmaid's tale. There ain't no secret agenda to oppress women. And if there was I ain't for it. Despite what some here think.

If only you could find one conservative or their viewpoints that showed they cared about women and didn't want to control them.

[diller]

Untill next time! You're friendly neighborhood agnostic pro gay rights conservative.

Just take a minute if that last sentence takes a bit to sink in.

Yeah that last sentence is hard to understand, LMAO!

[Nastard]

No one is forcing women to get preggy

You heard it here first, folks! Rape has been eradicated. Yay! Guess you can go back to running over pedestrians as you post while driving, ironically about how much you value life and would never do anything to endanger it.

[Specialka]

You heard it here first, folks! Rape has been eradicated. Yay! Guess you can go back to running over pedestrians as you post while driving, ironically about how much you value life and would never do anything to endanger it.

To be fair, he said he was for abortion in case of a rape.

[s_bushido]

To be fair, he said he was for abortion in case of a rape.

Then he's pro-murder. Bold stance.

[Nastard]

Then he's pro-murder. Bold stance.

Truly, considering his stance has been "it's not the baby's fault" so why make it suffer for the sins of the father? The baby is still technically innocent in this situation so his reasoning lacks consistency. Don't get me wrong, rape is a damn good reason to redraw his personal line as it's a horribly traumatic experience, so I've no problems with that. But we've already established it's not really about the baby, since he's okay with killing an innocent one in a circumstance he decided is appropriate. So I don't see why that line can't extend to a similar trauma of carrying a fetus for 9 months and having to care for an entire life when you don't want it. It's a hypothetical question I already know the answer to "she chose to have sex knowing what the consequences can be." Contraceptives fail all the time, and when you're talking 1% applied to a population of hundreds of millions, you're going to have quite a few unwanted pregnancies despite best efforts. The alternative is abstinence, and I don't find that to be a reasonable alternative.

[s_bushido]

[...] so his reasoning lacks consistency.

That's why it's almost entirely pointless to argue with the "abortion is murder!!!" crowd. At least the ones who pop up around here.

[Varx]

Holy crap, living rent free in some people's heads here.

The thread usually dies after a day of me coming in here to splash some red paint.

Anyway I simplified it last night.

Hypothetically, if we had the best imaginable adoption, welfare, parent resource, sex ed, free contraceptive systems.

Would any of you flip? Or is "muh autonomy" that important, cuz again, if a man could get pregnant I'd feel exactly the same. Just like how many conservative women also feel.

Also, in regards to rape. This is why it's an extreme but I wouldn't be behind a woman who got raped and decides to get an abortion 6 months after. It has to be reasonable.

Round 2, FIGHT

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Yeah that last sentence is hard to understand, LMAO!

Really reaching to Andromeda here aren't you? "Haha he said "you're " instead of "your"". That's all you got? Shame on you, there so much more you could attempt to get me on, like pages and pages and you fixate in a small grammatical error.

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That's why it's almost entirely pointless to argue with the "abortion is murder!!!" crowd. At least the ones who pop up around here.

Laws ain't perfect. Human life ain't perfect. But saying that blanket abortion is okay because rape abortion is okay is insane. Exception doesn't make the rule.

[shimerra]

Would any of you flip? Or is "muh autonomy" that important, cuz again, if a man could get pregnant I'd feel exactly the same. Just like how many conservative women also feel.

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Really reaching to Andromeda here aren't you? "Haha he said "you're " instead of "you're"". That's all you got? Shame on you, there so much more you could attempt to get me on.

Very easy for you to say you'd feel the same when you'll never have to know that for real. Luckily we have plenty of examples of the women you're referring to being massive hypocrites and believing their abortion was justified or how it's not the same as everyone else who wanted an abortion because they're whores who can't not have sex.

The overwhelming majority of all women disagree with you're need to control their bodies. And funny enough we have a lot of examples of these staunch pro-life conservative women who felt rabidly pro-life. Until they needed an abortion. Until having a children messed up their plans or life. Until they had a little oopsy. No exceptions for life of the mother until their life was threatened and they realized the medical term for the procedure that would not unnecessarily risk their life and sometimes ability to have future children was an abortion. We have plenty of examples both pre Roe vs Wade and since it's been overruled.



Just like we can't force you to give a kidney to a family member you hate or person you don't know you have zero right to force a women to give birth. I know authoritarians like yourself have a hard time understanding this but bodily autonomy is important. And let's be honest here conservatives like you will never, ever, ever agree to provide any of what you wanted in your hypothetical. Because that would be socialism. So let's simplify even more and deal with the current reality which is republicans don't even want to give children free lunches at school we force them to go to because it would make them entitled.


It's quite simple. Now quit drawing on the wall with crayons and calling it splashing a bit of red paint in this thread. We got you a nice piece of paper to use after all.

[Endus]

Hypothetically, if we had the best imaginable adoption, welfare, parent resource, sex ed, free contraceptive systems.

Would any of you flip? Or is "muh autonomy" that important, cuz again, if a man could get pregnant I'd feel exactly the same. Just like how many conservative women also feel.

Yes, bodily autonomy is that important.

Or are you in favor of forced organ harvesting?

Also, in regards to rape. This is why it's an extreme but I wouldn't be behind a woman who got raped and decides to get an abortion 6 months after. It has to be reasonable.

If you think rape's an exception, you don't actually believe the fetus is a human being in any case, and once we know you're lying about base principles like that, we have no reason to take anything you say seriously.

You've been lying to our faces this whole time.

Laws ain't perfect. Human life ain't perfect. But saying that blanket abortion is okay because rape abortion is okay is insane. Exception doesn't make the rule.

Your only argument against abortion rights is your hatred of women. You've given literally nothing else, other than lies you've admitted you don't even believe, when push comes to shove.

[Fugus]

@Pannonian

I will be completely serious here. I know I am coming off as a dick when I call you guys out for this, not trying to be smug or anything like that, it just comes off that way because I am calling you guys out for doing something stupid over and over again.

I might get called a troll for what I am doing, but if you notice, I don't jump into threads just to be contrarian. I am getting accused for the simple act of repeatedly calling you guys out for the same actions you never seem to learn from.

You guys act like mini-Sheldon Cooper's on here. You guys can be highly intelligent and lay out some every accurate and concise information and responses, but you HAVE to be right, even if the other person doesn't care if you are or aren't and just want to respond. The moment they come in and say something incorrect, even if they are lying to do it and you know they are lying, you turn into the pigeons from Finding Nemo.

And yes, I gave him a complement to hopefully draw attention to you to the fact that he is legitimately kicking your asses on here. You might be destroying his comments with facts but that isn't the game he is playing, if he was, you would be destroying him but he doesn't care about that, that is not his game. In his game, you are losing and losing badly.

And no, If you actually look at my post history, I don't agree with him or any of the stuff he has been saying. Just after a decade on here to watch you guys go full retard every time they post, it's like you guys can learn all the book smarts in the world but can't even figure out when someone on the thread is just fucking with you.

Even he admitted on a response to me that if you guys stopped responding to me he would probably get bored and move on, but you guys never will so him and others can always come here to do what he is doing and living rent free in your head because you HAD to respond.

I mean just look at the last ~10 or so pages and look at all the crap you helped him to spread by giving him air knowing what he was doing.

You and the others are bigger trolls here than I am, you helped spread page after page of crap that would have been a single post or maybe 2 that rolled off ignored and forgotten if you had just ignored it. All I did was post maybe 5 times here calling you out for it. But that's on you.

I might sound like a mean, sanctimonious dick by saying this, but all I am doing is legitimately call you out for your own actions while you pretend that isn't what happened. I am not trying to be mean or any of that crap and if you check my post history, I only ever call you guys out for this stuff and get labeled a troll just because I call you out and tend to stay on topic and civil otherwise.

Edit: God I seem to make a ton of spelling/grammar errors when I do long posts.....

[Varx]

Yes, bodily autonomy is that important.

Or are you in favor of forced organ harvesting?



If you think rape's an exception, you don't actually believe the fetus is a human being in any case, and once we know you're lying about base principles like that, we have no reason to take anything you say seriously.

You've been lying to our faces this whole time.



Your only argument against abortion rights is your hatred of women. You've given literally nothing else, other than lies you've admitted you don't even believe, when push comes to shove.

Except pregnancy isnt just dealing with one body.

And stop with that weak organ donation argument. I already explained why it's senseless, whether u agree or not is up to u.

What part of rape is an EXTREME do you not get?

Murder is bad plain and simple but you can bet if someone comes Into my home that I'ma make a rug out of them.

You can keep screeching I hate women, man you do you. But it is what it is, and rvw is only the beginning, mark my words.

[SoulForge]

Except pregnancy is. It just dealing with one body.

And stop with that weak organ donation argument. I already explained why it's senseless, whether u agree or not is up to u.

What part of rape is an EXTREME do you not get?

Murder is bad plain and simple but you can bet if someone comes Into my home that I'ma make a rug out of them.

You can keep screeching I hate women, man you do you. But it is what it is, and rvw is only the beginning, mark my words.

Only the beginning eh? What else you gonna do?

[Yetanothernewbie]

Only the beginning eh? What else you gonna do?

Probably go after those gays and coloreds next I bet. Wonder what his single hispanic mother of 8 would think.

[SoulForge]

Probably go after those gays and coloreds next I bet. Wonder what his single hispanic mother of 8 would think.

Put slavery back after that. Love going backwards as a country.

[Varx]

Only the beginning eh? What else you gonna do?

Me nothing. SCOTUS, blanket abolish. Minus exceptions

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Probably go after those gays and coloreds next I bet. Wonder what his single hispanic mother of 8 would think.

Actually I'm pro gay rights. And I'm Hispanic dude ... Lmao u even said it.

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Put slavery back after that. Love going backwards as a country.

Yeah saving babies is going backwards ...

[SoulForge]

Me nothing. SCOTUS, blanket abolish. Minus exceptions

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Actually I'm pro gay rights. And I'm Hispanic dude ... Lmao u even said it.

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Yeah saving babies is going backwards ...

Save your own. Its none of your damn business the medical decisions of other people.

[Varx]

Save your own. Its none of your damn business the medical decisions of other people.

Neither is cold blooded homicide and that's illigal.

Anyone can do w/e they want to themselves medically. I don't give a fuck.

But when you're pregnant it's not just you anymore. And people need to own up to their shit.

You might see it as misogyny but it ain't my fault nature deemed it that only females get pregnant. It is what it is.

Heh, honestly if anyone is misogynistic, it's liberal women themselves. They spit in the face of the greatest superpower in the planet, their ability to produce offspring.