Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...r-obstruction/

Tina Peters, still facing felony election fraud charges, is likely heading to jail. Not on those charges, but on misdemeanor obstruction charges for her refusal to cooperate with investigators.

On Friday, Peters was found guilty of obstructing government operations, a charge that stemmed from her February 2022 refusal to hand over an iPad that prosecutors say she had used to videotape a court hearing. Officers had a warrant to seize the iPad. Peters was acquitted of another charge of obstructing a peace officer. Body cam footage of Peters’ arrest at a Grand Junction, Colorado, bagel shop shows Peters repeatedly yelling, “Let go of me!” as officers attempt to handcuff her.

The misdemeanor obstruction charge carries a minimum sentence of six months in jail. Peters’ sentencing is set for April 10.

A call to Peters’ cell phone from Mother Jones went directly to voicemail, which said, “Everyone needs to be involved. Do something. Our republic is in jeopardy right now. Good Americans need to stand up and get involved. I love you, God bless you, and thank you.”

Hope she enjoys prison, and that her stay is extended for quite a bit.

[Poopymonster]

You say that, but do Republicans even acknowledge that death toll? Like...we started a 20 year crusade in the Middle East over 3,000 dead on 9/11. And there was a time during covid when we were experiencing those numbers of deaths every day (or couple of days), and yet they were still screaming about nothing but their right to not wear a mask.

You see, all the aborted fetuses the Demoncraps use for their rituals under pizza parlors would have a brazillion or even a gorillion children. Each.
All ended due to Woke culture.

[s_bushido]

Ah, of course I forgot. They were focused on the real issues.

[Breccia]

Still wondering who the fuck she thinks she's appealing to, if she's just hard-up for money and needs a boost

Nikki Haley thinks she can carry Trump supporters because she worked with Trump and can say crazy things like this, and still get classic conservative votes because she has real experience in real adminstrative roles. She thinks she can out DeSantis DeSantis.

She's wrong. Oh, and she's a woman running for Republican against two men. So...yeah.

[Gorsameth]

I would love to see the thought process on seeing her low single digit polling, and thinking that was a good place to start running for president. I've sort of wondered, given none of them can point out how they're different to Trump, they're not just spreading what Trump will run on before he finally announces officially to drum up more support after their numbers have kinda fizzled (CPAC even has a low audience count from what I saw today). Then you have the low number candidates drop out, and have everyone gather behind Trump because he's the one that runs on the same message. Because I reckon he'll need what he can get this time around.

I don't think even a serious COVID case would deter these people. The culture war bullshit they peddle takes priority over everything.

I mostly imagine its just pure grift. Trying to draw some more money of the MAGA crowd before the entire thing inevitably collapses in on itself.

[Edge-]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/sho...blog/rcna73294

“I don’t care if it takes every second of our time and every ounce of our energy, we either get this government back on our side or we defund, get rid of, abolish the FBI CDC, ATF,” Gaetz said to applause.

The party of law and order, baby.

Feds really shit the bed by not even bothering to pursue charges against him.

[Captain N]

Abolish the police says man who bangs underaged girls.

[Templar 331]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/sho...blog/rcna73294



The party of law and order, baby.

Feds really shit the bed by not even bothering to pursue charges against him.

Party over country. There are no depths these people won't sink to so they can achieve and maintain power.

[Breccia]

The party of law and order, baby.

"And after we abolish the FBI, we're going to investigate Hunter Biden! And AOC! And...shit, without the FBI I don't know how we're going to do that."

[Kaleredar]

"And after we abolish the FBI, we're going to investigate Hunter Biden! And AOC! And...shit, without the FBI I don't know how we're going to do that."

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll create some sort of police... a secret one, perhaps, to look into and deal with political opponents.

[Taifuu]

Lol the same party that loses their minds when people talk about defunding the police are now trying to defund federal law enforcement.

Minutes later, Gaetz, now serving on the select committee investigating the so-called weaponization of the federal government, suggested eliminating federal investigative agencies.

“I don’t care if it takes every second of our time and every ounce of our energy, we either get this government back on our side or we defund, get rid of, abolish the FBI CDC, ATF,” Gaetz said to applause.

[unfilteredJW]

I should have broke that cunts nose in college when I had the chance.

[Breccia]

So how's it going in Trump's world?

Just kidding, he's falling apart. But here are a few specifics.

1) So DWAC is down for the week/month/6mo/I do plan to finish eventually, as there's no sign of improvment. But that's if you can find the stock price. NASDAQ delisted them.

"Oh, they're so worthless that NASDAQ didn't bother?"

No, you have to pay to be listed and DWAC didn't pay.

They are appealing the finding on the grounds of "we don't want to be delisted".

The company has elected to file an appeal of this matter, pay the corresponding fee, and plans to pay any fees the Hearing Department determines are due

What is it about Trump's companies refusing to pay people? Yet another entry in a very long theme.

CyberTrump 2077 has lost the boost of membership it got when the FBI raided, is under 200k visitors a month (Twitter gets 400 million a month) and still cannot complete the merger because (a) they're under investigation and (b) Trump is out of his noncompetition clause in June, which will instantly make his own company actually worthless and not just basically worthless.

2) Hey, remember that bit I snuck into a post that Murdoch gave Kushner info about Biden's ads? Didn't seem like that big of a deal at the time, huh?

It was.

Multiple groups are demanding the FEC look into this blatant violation of election advertising.

Yeah, Murdoch personally handed the Trump campaign something of value and forgot to declare it. Not that I'm expecting it, but you can get five years in prison for that. Or, get a nasty fine which Murdoch would have to personally pay, of 200% the contribution. Which, because it was based on Biden's advertising budget, I'm guessing would be tens of millions of dollars.

3) I'm going to tag @cubby because he could probably use a good laugh.

We all know Trump is being sued for $250 million by the NY AG for, you know, all the fraud he pulled for decades. Trump decided to announce, in public, that he's going to lose that lawsuit.

Cohen says he found a subpoena on his desk.

"Surely you mean 'he was correctly and legally served'."

No.

After advisement by counsel, I have decided to challenge the subpoena and intend on making a motion to quash.

The subpoena was improperly served, I am not a party to this action and the subpoena lacks any specificity as to why I am being called as a non-party witness.

It's just bad lawyering by team Trump.

-- Cohen

It should surprise nobody that Trump sent this latest batch out at the legal deadline last minute. Therefore, it should also surprise nobody that any subpoena not correctly delivered in that time frame could be instantly dismissed by the judge. And yes, it should surprise nobody that Trump is now asking for yet another extension.

"On what grounds?"

I strongly suspect the grounds are "nobody responded to my subpoenas, that missed the deadline and were delivered improperly".

"So, because his team is incompetent?"

Yes. And it's not just me saying it.

"The current schedule imposes significant hardship," according to a recent letter filed by lawyer Clifford S. Robert on behalf the lawsuit's 16 Trump defendants.

"The Defendants' claimed hardship is self-inflicted," James counters, in papers filed by Colleen K. Faherty, a lawyer for the attorney general's office.

James' lawyers accuse Trump's side of "ongoing dilatory conduct" for waiting until they were right up against the timely-notice deadline to serve any deposition subpoenas.

"Didn't they try that last year?"

Yes.

"Did it work?"

No.

"What if, in our next battle, we took a stealthy approach?"

No.

Team Trump is complaining that the evidence against them is too massive to comb through. No, really, that's their play. The NY AG, as required by law, showed them the state had five million pages of evidence from Trump Org, Trump's banks, Trump's insurers, witnesses who work/worked for Trump, Trump's Tweets, bankruptcy filings, etc. Team Trump says one month (Feb 21 -> the March 20th deadline) isn't enough.

"Wait, isn't the vast majority of this stuff Trump already had?"

Yes. And the NY AG was kind enough to point that out in court, probably while laughing hysterically.

Approximately 85 percent of all documents held by OAG in this action were already available to the Trump Organization from the time they were created

Trump is trying to challenge some of those depositions by the aforementioned subpoenas...and Cohen, for some reason...which apparently is also common, a tactic to create doubt when the witnesses say two different things, even if it's by accident or misleading/confusing questions. The subpoenas failing to meet the schedule is therefore a critical error. There are no current depositions scheduled by Team Trump, probably because of the last-minute filing, and they expected to do so later.

We've heard from the judge multiple times, usually in frustrated terms.

So Cohen showing up -- something he has no interest in doing and, quite possibly, no legal reason to force him, is likely sititng this out. Now, I suspect, the idea is Team Trump asks Cohen "did Trump ask you to commit fraud?" and Cohen was supposed to say "no" without adding "he asked everyone else". Or something else to distract the jury. But it looks like that's not going to happen, and Cohen will be sitting this out.

"What about this headline, Former Trump "fixer" Michael Cohen preps for grand jury appearance?"

Oh, that's about the $130,000 whore payment Cohen personally did. Like, it was his own money. Cohen is the Venn Diagram overlap of
A) Witness most personally damaged by Trump
B) Witness most personally motivated to damage Trump
C) Witness best qualified and prepared to discuss this case

Trump has tried to deflect Cohen's testimony on the grounds of "he's just trying to get out of a prison sentence" to which the obvious response is "from committing crimes on your orders". It hasn't worked yet.

[postman1782]

They are looking to pay people to go to CPAC LOL. And who the fuck would pay $29k for a ticket they can't fill?

[Dontrike]

They are looking to pay people to go to CPAC LOL. And who the fuck would pay $29k for a ticket they can't fill?

Less than minimum wage shows they are looking for every retiree and the grandchildren they drag along to fill in seats. I wonder if anyone tried to sell their ticket for 29k.

[Breccia]

They are looking to pay people to go to CPAC LOL.

That looks like a tempting offer, but it would conflict with my paycheck from Soros.

Also, "ticket worth up to $29k" lol, not if nobody buys it it's not!

[Poopymonster]

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll create some sort of police... a secret one, perhaps, to look into and deal with political opponents.

They'll surely have enough cash after defunding all those 3 letter orgs to have Hugo Boss design their uniforms.

[gondrin]

So, you know how Trump has to make everything that is on the news about himself? Even if it has absolutely nothing to do with him.

Well, I guess he is somewhat attracted to George Conway if we go with the standard Trump motto of stating the exact opposite of what he really says.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...eac064c4&ei=15

Trump Jumps on Kellyanne Conway Divorce To SAVAGELY Tell World He Finds George Conway ‘Extremely Unattractive’

Former President Donald Trump pounced on news of Kellyanne Conway’s impending divorce to trash George Conway by making clear he finds his former White House senior adviser’s husband “extremely unattractive” and a “wacko” to boot.

On Friday, The New York Post‘s “Page Six” gossip section reported that after 22 years of marriage and some very public disagreements, the Conways are in the process of getting a divorce:

"Page Six hears that Kellyanne Conway, the longtime advisor to President Donald Trump, and George Conway, the longtime tormentor of President Trump, have decided to divorce after 22 years of marriage."

Beltway insiders tell us that they’ve both lawyered up and that the two sides are hashing out the details of the split.

The article goes on to note “Insiders say that the pair have attempted to repair the marriage, but have now decided the call it,” and that “Another source told us that the split has been buzzed about inside the Beltway for months.”

While he has yet to return to Twitter or Facebook, Trump is still active on his own social media site — where he ranted to other Truth Social users about the news in a somewhat chaotic post just minutes after midnight on Friday.

Trump wrote:

"Congratulations to Kellyanne Conway on her DIVORCE from her wacko husband, Mr. Kellyanne Conway. Free at last, she has finally gotten rid of the disgusting albatross around her neck. She is a great person, and will now be free to lead the kind of life that she deserves…and it will be a great life without the extremely unattractive loser by her side!"

Trump has a long history of attacking Conway, who became one of the highest-profile and most strident critics of Trump during his wife’s tenure in the Trump White House, a situation in which Kellyanne Conway often wound up defending Trump.

[Breccia]

"it will be a great life without the extremely unattractive loser by her side!"

...he meant himself, right?

[postman1782]

That looks like a tempting offer, but it would conflict with my paycheck from Soros.

Also, "ticket worth up to $29k" lol, not if nobody buys it it's not!

I would take the pay up front, then shout them down at CPAC.