So the chemical plant fire the other day? It might just be more impactful than first realised. Interesting thread on it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Spoonamor...10440598843394
Without those chemicals you can't make jet/rocket fuel or even explosives or ammo.
Last edited by Corvus; 2022-04-23 at 12:09 AM.
Between this and the R&D building exploding shortly before it, I'm putting a bit more money on intentional sabotage.Among the products this plant made are the additives needed for advanced rocket/jet fuels, treatments/solvents for servicing metal parts, core input chemicals for explosive and solvents/traces/washes needed to manufacture electronics and circuits.
AP: Mariupol officials: Second mass grave found
Another mass grave has been found outside Mariupol, the city council and an adviser to the mayor said Friday.
The city council posted a satellite photo provided by Planet Labs showing what it said was a mass grave 45 meters (147.64 feet) by 25 meters (82.02 feet) that could hold the bodies of at least 1,000 Mariupol residents.
It said the new reported mass grave is outside the village of Vynohradne, which is east of Mariupol.
Earlier this week, satellite photos from Maxar Technologies revealed what appeared to be rows upon rows of more than 200 freshly dug mass graves in the town of Manhush, located to the west of Mariupol.
The discovery of mass graves has led to accusations that the Russians are trying to conceal the slaughter of civilians in the city.
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
On the more cathartic topic of Russian Shit exploding: the TsNIIMash Russian rocket and spacecraft scientific center came down with a sudden case of 'being on fire'.
There's something more to this, to be certain. That's far too many fires in at least moderately strategic complexes to just be a series of accidents.
I doubt it's a bunch of ninja-esque American black ops teams or whatever, but sabotage feels possible, but even then this coordinated? I dunno. But it's off. Maybe a bunch of insurance scams write large, who knows with how corrupt Russian society is at this point.
It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built -Kreia
The internet: where to every action is opposed an unequal overreaction.
I mean it could still be some Spooks, but Spooks leveraging on domestic dissidents to do the deed to keep their own noses clean. Someone else in the thread mentioned that there are tons of Ethnic Ukranians in Russia and might not be a stretch either to assume that they don't like the fact that Russia's fucking their homeland
Could be both, we might never know.
Still, the idea of ethnic Ukrainians happening to have access to what is, what, half a dozen structures and all deciding to praise the gods of fire within 2-3 days of each other seems a bit much to swallow for me. Regardless of my misgivings, there's clearly more to this even if I doubt we ever learn the truth.
It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built -Kreia
The internet: where to every action is opposed an unequal overreaction.
Oh for sure. If it's actually CIA we won't know for decades. If it's another country's secret ops we probably will never know. I can expect Russia to roll out scapegoats within a few days, though, just to have anyone to blame. Or outright deny the extent of the damages and pretend everything is going along swimmingly.
Russia is claiming SAS sabotage groups are in Ukraine training Ukrainians so maybe that is the line they are going to go with.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...ost_type=share
Here's a video mostly for people who disagreed with my view on how the war will end. An American dude talks to the camera for 7 minutes, from a different PoV in different words he elaborates on the same thought I've been voicing here for good 1.5 months: the fighting is going on, but Russia has already lost the war, the question is what exactly will Russia lose in consequence (in addition to respect).