Russian invasion of Ukraine

[czarek]

So Russia is both able to conquer Ukraine and half of Europe in a few weeks and also already broken at the same time.

Schrödinger's Russia strikes again.

Conquer = manage it and be able to take over. Blast = destroy not possibly to manage and provide to rule. Except this Russia is broken via PR. China use diplomacy and economy. Russia is just fear and phisical strenght.

[Gorsameth]

Conquer = manage it and be able to take over. Blast = destroy not possibly to manage and provide to rule. Except this Russia is broken via PR. China use diplomacy and economy. Russia is just fear and phisical strenght.

Other then 'nukes' there is no reality in which Russia destroys anything.

If you look at them failing in Ukraine and losing tens of thousands of soldiers for a meter of useless ground over a month of fighting and see them 'blast' the entirely of Ukraine and half of Europe in a few weeks your an idiot.

[czarek]

Other then 'nukes' there is no reality in which Russia destroys anything.

If you look at them failing in Ukraine and losing tens of thousands of soldiers for a meter of useless ground over a month of fighting and see them 'blast' the entirely of Ukraine and half of Europe in a few weeks your an idiot.

Nukes are the way obviously. Except this leading clunky war its still business for them. Just take a look how Europe is still addicted to Russian fossil fuels. Ukraine crisis impact whole Europe and US. China is goin also for Taiwan. Sum up and the result is China at the top after few years.

[Dontrike]

Im that "war" is just a puppet show. Ppl dont see this. Russia could blast Ukraine and half of the Europe in few weeks. But they(and China) dont want to. Its obvious to me they both want to rearrange world leaders. Russia is already broken and cant be leader. China can and will. Both gonna win in long term. Russia is just a dog of war in their hands.

They "can blast it" in that they have the capability, but in doing so the country would either end up as glass or every country, even China, coming down on them and the entire place is broken up into smaller ones. At best it's not even a good pyrrhic victory and at worst the world needs to learn four new country's names as Putin goes down in that area's history as a dumber Hitler.

[czarek]

They "can blast it" in that they have the capability, but in doing so the country would either end up as glass or every country, even China, coming down on them and the entire place is broken up into smaller ones. At best it's not even a good pyrrhic victory and at worst the world needs to learn four new country's names as Putin goes down in that area's history as a dumber Hitler.

I still dont know he is dumb, smart, insane or sum all. On the other hand we really dont know he is still alive. Anyway for me not its puppep show. Im not sure it meant to be like that or just evolved to this.

[Fuiking]

I still dont know he is dumb, smart, insane or sum all. On the other hand we really dont know he is still alive. Anyway for me not its puppep show. Im not sure it meant to be like that or just evolved to this.

whatever you are having, I want it too

[Milchshake]

Im that "war" is just a puppet show. Ppl dont see this. Russia could blast Ukraine and half of the Europe in few weeks. But they(and China) dont want to. Its obvious to me they both want to rearrange world leaders. Russia is already broken and cant be leader. China can and will. Both gonna win in long term. Russia is just a dog of war in their hands.

Is it just a coincidence your avatar has the same theme and framing as YUPPIES avatar? Then you use the same doomer language?

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[Calfredd]

Is it just a coincidence your avatar has the same theme and framing as YUPPIES avatar? Then you use the same doomer language?

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Except Tsugunai (YUPPIE) was posting such nonsense way back when he still used his WoW characters as his profile image.

[Kralljin]

Is it just a coincidence your avatar has the same theme and framing as YUPPIES avatar? Then you use the same doomer language?

Said poster also has a bunch of rather...confusing posts on other topics over in the WoW section.

Either said poster is not quite right in the head or the Avatar (stylized icon of Unholy Frenzy) is a not too subtle hint.

[Iphie]

A museum...

https://www.barrons.com/news/putin-o...flict-3941e5e6

Well, looks like pootin really wants to anchor this in the russian psyche as a pivotal moment in the history of the motherland.

[diller]

The problem with this plan is that the civilians can't live without supplies either, and the army will take what they need from the people long before they starve out themselves.

Wars are very inconvenient for everyone - there is nothing wrong with the plan as described.

[DarkTZeratul]

A museum...

https://www.barrons.com/news/putin-o...flict-3941e5e6

Well, looks like pootin really wants to anchor this in the russian psyche as a pivotal moment in the history of the motherland.

I'm reading a biography of Winston Churchill, and this puts me in mind of how the Germans were so sure that England would surrender within a matter of days that they were already preparing the victory parade in Berlin before they'd even started bombing.

[Lynarii]

Wars are very inconvenient for everyone - there is nothing wrong with the plan as described.

There are huge things wrong when it's what is supposed to be Ukrainian citizens that the Ukrainian government would be putting in danger. If you hand wave away actions that would lead to mass civilian death, what exactly makes you any different from the russian soldiers?

Yeah, civilians die in wars and you can't always prevent it. But starving nearly 2 million people to death would be pretty damn far up there on the whole atrocity scale.

[jonnysensible]

There are huge things wrong when it's what is supposed to be Ukrainian citizens that the Ukrainian government would be putting in danger. If you hand wave away actions that would lead to mass civilian death, what exactly makes you any different from the russian soldiers?

Yeah, civilians die in wars and you can't always prevent it. But starving nearly 2 million people to death would be pretty damn far up there on the whole atrocity scale.

civis would be given a humanitarian corridor much like at Mariupol, unfortunately the russians have a tendency to shell them because they are disgusting bastards.

[diller]

There are huge things wrong when it's what is supposed to be Ukrainian citizens that the Ukrainian government would be putting in danger. If you hand wave away actions that would lead to mass civilian death, what exactly makes you any different from the russian soldiers?

Yeah, civilians die in wars and you can't always prevent it. But starving nearly 2 million people to death would be pretty damn far up there on the whole atrocity scale.

It never works that way though, civilians will get evacuated.

[Corvus]

Speaking of Crimea, there is a massive fire there at the oil facilities after some careless person dropped a drone on it. Multiple oil tanks completely engulfed.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/16...849794564?s=20

Smells like shaping season has started.

[ArcanaXVIII]

There are huge things wrong when it's what is supposed to be Ukrainian citizens that the Ukrainian government would be putting in danger. If you hand wave away actions that would lead to mass civilian death, what exactly makes you any different from the russian soldiers?

Yeah, civilians die in wars and you can't always prevent it. But starving nearly 2 million people to death would be pretty damn far up there on the whole atrocity scale.

You really still think there are still genuine Ukrainian citizens in the Crimea? That ship has sailed since 2014. They all left and were replaced with Russians which will need to be kicked out either way.

[Lynarii]

You really still think there are still genuine Ukrainian citizens in the Crimea? That ship has sailed since 2014. They all left and were replaced with Russians which will need to be kicked out either way.

I do. There were about 2 million people in Crimea in 2014, and by all reports there's still roughly the same now. Obviously some have fled and been replaced, but the only estimates I could get on how many were around 50,000 in 2015. Still, there's only about 1.5 million registered internally displaced people in Ukraine, with the majority being from the eastern front, so it's fair to say that most of the people who were living in Crimea in 2013 are probably still there.

While not as large as the Syrian refugee crisis, adding another 2 million from Crimea would still be a massive problem for Ukraine and the rest of Europe. ESPECIALLY because there would be a need to go through all 2 million of them to try and remove as many russian infiltrators as possible.

[postman1782]

Apparently there was an assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin by someone in Ukraine.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia...-report-claims

Apparently it had 17 kilos of explosives on it.

[Yunru]

Apparently there was an assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin by someone in Ukraine.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia...-report-claims

Apparently it had 17 kilos of explosives on it.

I think it has to do something with russa starting to steal money from their people i think .